> This is HN, not a general forum. People here who care about privacy should be able to use such devices. So I recommend them. I think the spirit of respectful

> This is HN, not a general forum. People here who care about privacy should be able to use such devices. So I recommend them. I think the spirit of respectfully challenging what you're stating is the nuance of privacy versus the entire world. Even within the HN audience, I don't think it's a stretch to say some individuals would prefer a secure(data enc in transit)-and-available (note: not a complete E2E private against 3 letter agencies) versus perfect privacy. FWIW, I'm one of those folks that have iOS devices that turned on E2EE for iCloud. I'm attempting a "close as I can get to amazing privacy but also balancing the nuance of life" strategies.