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Why would you look to avoid paying tax though? I can understand doing so in a country that is squandering money - like the UK, where you pay through the nose a
by varispeed 3y ago
Why would you look to avoid paying tax though?
I can understand doing so in a country that is squandering money - like the UK, where you pay through the nose and get very little in return, but Germany? I heard public services and basically what you get for your tax is pretty decent.
- LeanderK 3y agowhy is this even the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about the legal form? This is highly unethical in general and really just super selfish. F*k you if you avoid taxes, especially in a country like Germany where society paid for your university studies etc.
- wiseowise 3y ago> F*k you if you avoid taxes, especially in a country like Germany where society paid for your university studies etc. People can move in from other countries, you know.
- Lacerda69 3y agoand they would also benefit from the social net the state provides plus everything else taxes pay for, so your point is what exactly?
- LeanderK 3y ago> People can move in from other countries, you know. You can also move away from germany. But you can't move to germany and avoid taxes while creating a company here (OP was literally: Bootstrapping a SaaS Business in Germany)
- wiseowise 3y agoI’m not saying that you should avoid taxes.
- throwaway60722 3y agoThere are states with much lower taxes that also pay for education. Why should Germans pay so much? There are people who didn't go to university doing business too.
- slow_typist 3y agoIn the eighties, income tax in Germany could go up to 56%. It is much lower know. Taxes are somewhat relative in space and time.
- throwaway60722 3y agoJust over the border is a country with effective income tax for self-employed businessmen around 5-15%.
- Luc 3y agoWhy not name the country?
- mbrain 3y agoI would guess Poland
- Lionga 3y agoThere are many, Cyprus, Romania, Bulgaria, Andorra to name a few
- throwaway60722 3y agoThere are not so many options you couldn't just check yourself... But to answer your question - Poland and Czech Republic.
- Luc 3y agoWell I could but it would take a while, no other country in Europe has as many neighbours as Germany. Thanks for replying.
- dappermanneke 3y agowhen you start working you will understand
- nforgerit 3y agoGerman here. You mean the German education system that has been going down the last 2-3 decades? Are you even aware that the German tax system is redirecting tax income from smaller companies to richer ones (e.g. if they soon introduce "reduced electricity prices" for some heavy industry companies)? Are you aware that the system taxes employees relatively high and companies and capital income pretty low with thousands of tax exempts? Are you aware that government service cost are skyrocketing because they didn't reform anything in the recent 2 decades? Are you aware they poured ~4bn EUR into "digitization" of government services and nothing's working? The whole system has been broken by corporate lobbies and unethical politicians who just wanted to be voted for. Now tell me about the great social system in Germany that is worth all the tax money.
- mbrain 3y agonon-German living in Germany, I couldn't agree more. When I complain about this, Germans usually reply with 'then go back to your home'.
- nforgerit 3y agoHa, that's a very typical answer my compatriots would give. What Germans lack in competence they make up with arrogance. That just seems to be our thing.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>Germans usually reply with 'then go back to your home' "You're country is corrupt as hell." Eastern Europeans: "We know" Germans : "Then go back to your country" OR "Impossible, we're Europe's number one economy!!!11one"
- gv83 3y agoAnd you have not seen Italy!
- LeanderK 3y agoI am sorry but you can not work in the company or build a company in the country and avoid taxes. Your taxes go directly into these things. All the rest of the society has to pay taxes, they can't avoid taxes on their car via an elaborate foreign holding structure. The only way to change it to your liking is via politics, or build it in a different country respecting their rules. Get involved in local politics, especially the state of the school system and many other things are decided on a very low level that can be directly influenced by your district. Everyone contributes and we get back free education (our universities are still good btw. and for certain topics really good) and from what I hear about schools from parents they still work, even with expanded care times. Bürgergeld exists if you really hit a rough spot. Super cheap public transit (50€ per month!) and autobahn is still existing. You say that what Germans lack in competence they make up with arrogance, but it's really to complain about everything and be super pessimistic all the time. You can not just choose to avoid taxes, that's just highly unethical and unfair to everyone who's paying their share and super selfish. I stand by my word: F*k you if you avoid taxes
- ponector 3y agoEveryone is trying to minimize taxes in a legal way. The best example is Apple. With enormous profits they pay almost zero federal taxes.
- mbrain 3y agoWhen you ask about ways to minimize, you are treated as a criminal who is avoiding taxes.