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> In Comments > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article men

by pc86 3y ago

> In Comments > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that". https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mvdtnz 3y ago
I don't agree with that guideline. I think people should be ruthlessly shamed for making comments on articles they haven't read. I will truly never understand the mindset of somebody who would venture into the comment section to discuss something they haven't read.
- ryanklee 3y ago
  There's more to comment on than just the topics confined to the context of the article. This, for instance.
- pc86 3y ago
  Is it relevant whether or not you agree with a guideline? This site is provided to its users under the terms its owners decide to put forth. This is one of them. I think it says something about a person when they read that guideline and say "yeah but I don't wanna, so I'm ignoring that one." If you want to change it, lobby YC/dang to do so.
- jmcqk6 3y ago
  And because you can't understand something, you will break the agreements of the community. I think people who look at collective agreements and ignore them should be ruthlessly shamed for disconnecting from the community and deciding their internal discomfort is the thing that needs to be addressed by the community in that moment. I will never understand the mindset of someone who wants to be a part of community but then doesn't want to follow the agreements of the community. Why are you here? Just to make sure people know that You Don't Approve?
  - mvdtnz 3y ago
    You're entitled to your opinion. Personally I think guidelines like "be kind" and "avoid generic tangents" are far more important. Your comment is completely focused on targeting me. I was trying to have a conversation about what's in the article under discussion.
    - ALittleLight 3y ago
      You could, and should in the future, easily rephrase your comment to "In the article it says the person recording did quit within 24 hours." This way you preserve the essence of your comment without violating community rules. This would also be kind, extending the benefit of the doubt to others, and avoid tangents, like this one, about the basic rules.
    - jmcqk6 3y ago
      You weren't trying to have a conversion. By your own admission, you were trying to "ruthlessly shame". If you think you can have conversations with people you are ruthlessly shaming, perhaps this interaction can demonstrate that those are radically different things.
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by pc86 3y ago

mvdtnz 3y ago

I don't agree with that guideline. I think people should be ruthlessly shamed for making comments on articles they haven't read. I will truly never understand the mindset of somebody who would venture into the comment section to discuss something they haven't read.

ryanklee 3y ago
There's more to comment on than just the topics confined to the context of the article. This, for instance.
pc86 3y ago
Is it relevant whether or not you agree with a guideline? This site is provided to its users under the terms its owners decide to put forth. This is one of them. I think it says something about a person when they read that guideline and say "yeah but I don't wanna, so I'm ignoring that one." If you want to change it, lobby YC/dang to do so.
jmcqk6 3y ago
And because you can't understand something, you will break the agreements of the community. I think people who look at collective agreements and ignore them should be ruthlessly shamed for disconnecting from the community and deciding their internal discomfort is the thing that needs to be addressed by the community in that moment. I will never understand the mindset of someone who wants to be a part of community but then doesn't want to follow the agreements of the community. Why are you here? Just to make sure people know that You Don't Approve?
- mvdtnz 3y ago
  You're entitled to your opinion. Personally I think guidelines like "be kind" and "avoid generic tangents" are far more important. Your comment is completely focused on targeting me. I was trying to have a conversation about what's in the article under discussion.
  - ALittleLight 3y ago
    You could, and should in the future, easily rephrase your comment to "In the article it says the person recording did quit within 24 hours." This way you preserve the essence of your comment without violating community rules. This would also be kind, extending the benefit of the doubt to others, and avoid tangents, like this one, about the basic rules.
  - jmcqk6 3y ago
    You weren't trying to have a conversion. By your own admission, you were trying to "ruthlessly shame". If you think you can have conversations with people you are ruthlessly shaming, perhaps this interaction can demonstrate that those are radically different things.
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