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This is the worst kind of correct. On-prem will keep existing IFF you have the capacity to pay for 500+ licenses. If you're a small to medium organization tha

This is the worst kind of correct. On-prem will keep existing IFF you have the capacity to pay for 500+ licenses. If you're a small to medium organization that still doesn't trust Atlassian to run your business-critical services (and there are a number of reasons why one might not want to: [0] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] ) you're SOL. [0] https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/scoop-atlassian https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/scoop-atlassian [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-cybercom-says-mass-exploitation-of-atlassian-confluence-vulnerability-ongoing-and-expected-to-accelerate/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-cybercom-says-mass-exploita... [2] https://cyberscoop.com/atlassian-hack-employee-data-seigedsec/ https://cyberscoop.com/atlassian-hack-employee-data-seigedse... [3] https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/21/atlassian_critical_security_advisories/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/21/atlassian_critical_se... [4] https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-79483 https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-79483 [5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1261040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1261040

firesteelrain 3y ago
It is pricey - I will not disagree with you. It is 1-500 is the license tier and that costs $42,000 per year for the Jira data center subscription, $27,000 for Confluence, BitBucket is $2,300 for 1-25, Crowd is $5800 for 1-500, and Bamboo is $11k for up to 25 users. I would not connect any of these services directly to the Internet.
- weinzierl 3y ago
  Do you know how this compares with the Atlassian Server (on-prem) option, let's say in the best case of 500 users?
  - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
    They no longer sell Atlassian “Server edition” licenses. Just Data Center and Cloud now.
    - weinzierl 3y ago
      Yes, I know and that's why I'm asking. I suspect many companies I know are on the "Server edition" and I'm curious how much more expensive it will get for them.
      - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
        Oh I misunderstood, sorry about that. We went from Server -> Cloud -> GTFO. Server also had tiered pricing starting at $10 for 3 users. It went up from there in much saner increments but I don’t recall them. We exited the ecosystem at the last cloud price hike. Their product pricing people are delusional.
        weinzierl 3y ago
        Thanks! I dug bit deeper and found old pricing tables. For Jira and the 500 to 1000 user tiers I'm interested in it was roughly about twice the money going from Server to Datacenter. Interestingly the Datacenter prices per user are similar to the cloud prices, so from Atlassian's perspective it is more a price adjustment with regard to the incongruous Server pricing. From the customer perspective it's still a bummer and I guest many will go straight to the GTFO tier.
  - firesteelrain 3y ago
    I don’t remember because we transitioned to DC versions a couple years ago. We do bulk license buys as part of my corporation.

firesteelrain 3y ago

It is pricey - I will not disagree with you. It is 1-500 is the license tier and that costs $42,000 per year for the Jira data center subscription, $27,000 for Confluence, BitBucket is $2,300 for 1-25, Crowd is $5800 for 1-500, and Bamboo is $11k for up to 25 users. I would not connect any of these services directly to the Internet.

weinzierl 3y ago
Do you know how this compares with the Atlassian Server (on-prem) option, let's say in the best case of 500 users?
- TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
  They no longer sell Atlassian “Server edition” licenses. Just Data Center and Cloud now.
  - weinzierl 3y ago
    Yes, I know and that's why I'm asking. I suspect many companies I know are on the "Server edition" and I'm curious how much more expensive it will get for them.
    - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
      Oh I misunderstood, sorry about that. We went from Server -> Cloud -> GTFO. Server also had tiered pricing starting at $10 for 3 users. It went up from there in much saner increments but I don’t recall them. We exited the ecosystem at the last cloud price hike. Their product pricing people are delusional.
      - weinzierl 3y ago
        Thanks! I dug bit deeper and found old pricing tables. For Jira and the 500 to 1000 user tiers I'm interested in it was roughly about twice the money going from Server to Datacenter. Interestingly the Datacenter prices per user are similar to the cloud prices, so from Atlassian's perspective it is more a price adjustment with regard to the incongruous Server pricing. From the customer perspective it's still a bummer and I guest many will go straight to the GTFO tier.
- firesteelrain 3y ago
  I don’t remember because we transitioned to DC versions a couple years ago. We do bulk license buys as part of my corporation.