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Anyone else think YouTube Premium is pretty reasonably priced? You are getting a music streaming service on top of ad free YouTube. I've been very happy with it

by rcarr 3y ago

Anyone else think YouTube Premium is pretty reasonably priced? You are getting a music streaming service on top of ad free YouTube. I've been very happy with it since subscribing.

bsdnoob 3y ago
Probably not because I still get ads with YouTube Premium.
- bibanez 3y ago
  Do you mean sponsored ads in videos?
  - jalict 3y ago
    If it is sponsored Ads, then I presumre that parented comments thinks the price is not good enough to actually provide, as it does not provide enough money for creators to not have sponsored ads as well.
    - szszrk 3y ago
      How much is "enough" money for a content creator to be satisfied? They are mostly driven by income, so why assume it will ever be a case at all.
loveparade 3y ago
It's not about the price. The whole UX is bad with their pushing of irrelevant clickbait content.
JR1427 3y ago
Yes, I do think it pretty reasonable. I don't watch "normal" TV, only YT, and I like it. Obviously there are the increasing number of ads actually within youtube videos, but at least you can skip over them.
rplnt 3y ago
It's priced well, but does not deliver on its promises. You still get tons of ads even with premium. In-video sponsor blocks are still ads, should be clearly marked so, and optionally skipped. As such I don't see why I would pay for premium when I still have to install an extension on top of that. (I can see it being worth for music, but I don't use youtube for that.)
dncornholio 3y ago
Premium Lite for 6.99 eu was perfect, not sure if I will continue my subscription when they drop Lite and they will charge 11.99 eu.
matsemann 3y ago
Not really. I don't want the music streaming service, so they're forcing me to buy something I don't want. Also, it's not like videos have no ads with premium.
- Mindwipe 3y ago
  Not really, they're just not able to sell you the ad free product on it's own for less money than the bundle. But enough people bring it up that I honestly think the product page should let you buy YT Premium without YT Music for the same price just so people get it...
  - matsemann 3y ago
    Why do you think they wouldn't be able to do that?
szszrk 3y ago
Aside from pricing - the ad free experience is stretch. Basically all youtubers I used to watch push commercials inside their videos, have additional sponsors, some add Patronite support and so on. So I'm paying but still get ads served heavily. Not to mention abusing idiotic "shorts" that give them better income. So instead of justifying Premium I started unsubbing even those that I respected, but currently became plain ad space. Also archived manually most videos that I valued in the past that are actual knowledge/art and tend to just try to ignore youtube. It's not a complete detox (due to lots of embedded videos on third party sites) but so far feels like a relief.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  SponsorBlock (and casting equivalents) make Youtube a lot more enjoyable. I can't imagine paying for Youtube Premium without it.
  - szszrk 3y ago
    Sure, but what's the point of that - paying not to have ads and then use addons to block... remaining ads. The payment here makes little sense. None if you actually don't like/need youtube music.
beeboobaa 3y ago
Absolutely not. I only watch a handful of videos a month and don't care about their music streaming. $12/month is an absolute ripoff. No way my handful of ad views produces more than $1, MAYBE $2.
- HenryBemis 3y ago
  That's you, and power to you. I know of cafes that use YT for music. They make their own playlists of nice video clips, and they display them inside theirs shops while they play the song. So.. good music, nice video clips, and all that for $12. At this point I will have to admit that they are cheating as business (cafes/restos) that play music have a difference (and more expensive) setup that they have to follow for licensing/playing music.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Btw, this could be illegal in some countries. Streaming is for private use, and to play music in the shop the license for public playing could be required.
- wkipling 3y ago
  Protip. Sign up from the Philippines. You don't even meed to fly there...
  - alex3305 3y ago
    Until your Google Account gets banned for violating the ToS. No thank you.
- m4jor 3y ago
  If you set your VPN location to Ukraine, you can buy Premium for ~$2.70/m That's what I did.
  - beeboobaa 3y ago
    That's fraud. Blocking ads isn't.
izacus 3y ago
Yeah, it's a decent value for money. I wish Google would also allow paid customers a bit more customization of the websites (e.g. removing Shorts and all that crap) and enforced no sponsors inside videos for Premium subscribers.
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  Fucking shorts! On the mobile app you can't even see the full title, and mostly it appears to have nothing to do with the content anyway. Maybe I'm just a bitter old man, but fuck all those shorts for their waste of increasingly precious time. Is that the entirety of what TikTok is?
  - izacus 3y ago
    Funny enough, I actually like TikTok because shorts have better content and they're presented in a different context. Not mixed with longform videos. I'm not sure if Google product people actually use their products.
bluescrn 3y ago
It costs more than Netflix in the UK, and you still get some ads (sponsors in many videos). (If there'd been a £6.99 Premium Lite option, I'd probably have paid. But then again, I've been on a subscription-cancelling spree this year, first things to go when inflation/energy prices really started to hurt)
- rcarr 3y ago
  Yeah but I watch more YouTube than I do Netflix, it adds more value to my life. I don't know why people say this like Netflix should automatically be allowed to charge more than YouTube because it's making traditional shows.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  Shouldn't it cost more than Netflix? YouTube has superior content in both quality and quantity.
rpgbr 3y ago
Giving money plus being tracked as hell by the company you’re paying to sounds like a pretty bad deal to me.
josefresco 3y ago
YouTube Premium (bundled with YT Music) was a no-brainer when I subscribed given how much time my kids spent on YT.
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Asooka 3y ago
It is exorbitantly priced. I would pay 2$/mo for it, maybe 3. Additionally, I have zero trust that "ad-free" will continue to hold. Too many services have promised ad-free and then reneged on it. Lastly, music streaming is the last thing I want, I just put my music on my music player (my phone right now).
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deely3 3y ago
Nope. > YouTube generated $29.2 billion revenue in 2022. Over 2.5 billion people access YouTube once a month. YouTube Premium reached 80 million subscribers in 2022. Src: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/ https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/ I suppose with $30 billions of revenue, and billions of users per month, you theoretically can create $2 per month Premium and still have big profits.
- jsnell 3y ago
  > you theoretically can create $2 per month Premium and still have big profits. That doesn't follow. You're making three unfounded assumptions there: - That YouTube is currently making big profits. - That every user is the same value - That ever user pays the same amount for a YT Premium subscriptions. But in reality we only know YT's revenue, not their profit (or even whether it's a profit rather than a loss). We know for a fact that not every user is of the same value; the ad revenue from the average user in say US is far higher than that of the average user in Turkey. And in what is almost certainly not a coincidence, the price of YT Premium in the US is far higher than for those in Turkey.
  - deely3 3y ago
    Agree, I made unfounded assumption, but at least we could use it as starting point.
happytoexplain 3y ago
I don't want the music streaming service. The price would only make sense to me, personally, in a world where it's the one and only streaming subscription a person could ever want. As it is, it feels like an $80-$100 per year service.

by rcarr 3y ago

Anyone else think YouTube Premium is pretty reasonably priced? You are getting a music streaming service on top of ad free YouTube. I've been very happy with it since subscribing.

bsdnoob 3y ago

Probably not because I still get ads with YouTube Premium.

bibanez 3y ago
Do you mean sponsored ads in videos?
- jalict 3y ago
  If it is sponsored Ads, then I presumre that parented comments thinks the price is not good enough to actually provide, as it does not provide enough money for creators to not have sponsored ads as well.
  - szszrk 3y ago
    How much is "enough" money for a content creator to be satisfied? They are mostly driven by income, so why assume it will ever be a case at all.

loveparade 3y ago

It's not about the price. The whole UX is bad with their pushing of irrelevant clickbait content.

JR1427 3y ago

Yes, I do think it pretty reasonable. I don't watch "normal" TV, only YT, and I like it. Obviously there are the increasing number of ads actually within youtube videos, but at least you can skip over them.

rplnt 3y ago

It's priced well, but does not deliver on its promises. You still get tons of ads even with premium. In-video sponsor blocks are still ads, should be clearly marked so, and optionally skipped. As such I don't see why I would pay for premium when I still have to install an extension on top of that. (I can see it being worth for music, but I don't use youtube for that.)

dncornholio 3y ago

Premium Lite for 6.99 eu was perfect, not sure if I will continue my subscription when they drop Lite and they will charge 11.99 eu.

matsemann 3y ago

Not really. I don't want the music streaming service, so they're forcing me to buy something I don't want. Also, it's not like videos have no ads with premium.

Mindwipe 3y ago
Not really, they're just not able to sell you the ad free product on it's own for less money than the bundle. But enough people bring it up that I honestly think the product page should let you buy YT Premium without YT Music for the same price just so people get it...
- matsemann 3y ago
  Why do you think they wouldn't be able to do that?

szszrk 3y ago

Aside from pricing - the ad free experience is stretch. Basically all youtubers I used to watch push commercials inside their videos, have additional sponsors, some add Patronite support and so on. So I'm paying but still get ads served heavily. Not to mention abusing idiotic "shorts" that give them better income. So instead of justifying Premium I started unsubbing even those that I respected, but currently became plain ad space. Also archived manually most videos that I valued in the past that are actual knowledge/art and tend to just try to ignore youtube. It's not a complete detox (due to lots of embedded videos on third party sites) but so far feels like a relief.

jeroenhd 3y ago
SponsorBlock (and casting equivalents) make Youtube a lot more enjoyable. I can't imagine paying for Youtube Premium without it.
- szszrk 3y ago
  Sure, but what's the point of that - paying not to have ads and then use addons to block... remaining ads. The payment here makes little sense. None if you actually don't like/need youtube music.

beeboobaa 3y ago

Absolutely not. I only watch a handful of videos a month and don't care about their music streaming. $12/month is an absolute ripoff. No way my handful of ad views produces more than $1, MAYBE $2.

HenryBemis 3y ago
That's you, and power to you. I know of cafes that use YT for music. They make their own playlists of nice video clips, and they display them inside theirs shops while they play the song. So.. good music, nice video clips, and all that for $12. At this point I will have to admit that they are cheating as business (cafes/restos) that play music have a difference (and more expensive) setup that they have to follow for licensing/playing music.
- ponector 3y ago
  Btw, this could be illegal in some countries. Streaming is for private use, and to play music in the shop the license for public playing could be required.
wkipling 3y ago
Protip. Sign up from the Philippines. You don't even meed to fly there...
- alex3305 3y ago
  Until your Google Account gets banned for violating the ToS. No thank you.
m4jor 3y ago
If you set your VPN location to Ukraine, you can buy Premium for ~$2.70/m That's what I did.
- beeboobaa 3y ago
  That's fraud. Blocking ads isn't.

izacus 3y ago

Yeah, it's a decent value for money. I wish Google would also allow paid customers a bit more customization of the websites (e.g. removing Shorts and all that crap) and enforced no sponsors inside videos for Premium subscribers.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago
Fucking shorts! On the mobile app you can't even see the full title, and mostly it appears to have nothing to do with the content anyway. Maybe I'm just a bitter old man, but fuck all those shorts for their waste of increasingly precious time. Is that the entirety of what TikTok is?
- izacus 3y ago
  Funny enough, I actually like TikTok because shorts have better content and they're presented in a different context. Not mixed with longform videos. I'm not sure if Google product people actually use their products.

bluescrn 3y ago

It costs more than Netflix in the UK, and you still get some ads (sponsors in many videos). (If there'd been a £6.99 Premium Lite option, I'd probably have paid. But then again, I've been on a subscription-cancelling spree this year, first things to go when inflation/energy prices really started to hurt)

rcarr 3y ago
Yeah but I watch more YouTube than I do Netflix, it adds more value to my life. I don't know why people say this like Netflix should automatically be allowed to charge more than YouTube because it's making traditional shows.
carlosjobim 3y ago
Shouldn't it cost more than Netflix? YouTube has superior content in both quality and quantity.

rpgbr 3y ago

Giving money plus being tracked as hell by the company you’re paying to sounds like a pretty bad deal to me.

josefresco 3y ago

YouTube Premium (bundled with YT Music) was a no-brainer when I subscribed given how much time my kids spent on YT.

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Asooka 3y ago

It is exorbitantly priced. I would pay 2$/mo for it, maybe 3. Additionally, I have zero trust that "ad-free" will continue to hold. Too many services have promised ad-free and then reneged on it. Lastly, music streaming is the last thing I want, I just put my music on my music player (my phone right now).

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deely3 3y ago

Nope. > YouTube generated $29.2 billion revenue in 2022. Over 2.5 billion people access YouTube once a month. YouTube Premium reached 80 million subscribers in 2022. Src: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/ https://www.businessofapps.com/data/youtube-statistics/ I suppose with $30 billions of revenue, and billions of users per month, you theoretically can create $2 per month Premium and still have big profits.

jsnell 3y ago
> you theoretically can create $2 per month Premium and still have big profits. That doesn't follow. You're making three unfounded assumptions there: - That YouTube is currently making big profits. - That every user is the same value - That ever user pays the same amount for a YT Premium subscriptions. But in reality we only know YT's revenue, not their profit (or even whether it's a profit rather than a loss). We know for a fact that not every user is of the same value; the ad revenue from the average user in say US is far higher than that of the average user in Turkey. And in what is almost certainly not a coincidence, the price of YT Premium in the US is far higher than for those in Turkey.
- deely3 3y ago
  Agree, I made unfounded assumption, but at least we could use it as starting point.

happytoexplain 3y ago

I don't want the music streaming service. The price would only make sense to me, personally, in a world where it's the one and only streaming subscription a person could ever want. As it is, it feels like an $80-$100 per year service.