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Committing a crime, such as possessing a 3D printed firearm?

by jprd 3y ago

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago
That is not a crime AFAIK.
- edgineer 3y ago
  Should you 3d print an auto sear (a little bracket-looking thing) then you're in possession of a machine gun, which is illegal.
  - refurb 3y ago
    Why was this downvoted? The federal laws do state that "possession of specific machine gun parts is considered possession of a machine gun" Machine gun sears included. Also parts that convert a semi-automatic into a machine gun like a Lightening Link.
    - commandar 3y ago
      Because it's a non-sequitur. Unregistered machine guns are illegal to possess regardless of how they were made. 3D printing an otherwise legal firearm is not illegal at the Federal level in the United States. The exchange boils down to: Comment: That isn't illegal. Reply: well, if you do this other thing that's illegal, it is.
indigo0086 3y ago
Where is that law applied?
- jprd 3y ago
  https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/265/265-01(9).pdf https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/265/265-01(9)... https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S14A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S14A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S13A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S13A https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/080823zr_dc8f.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/080823zr_dc8...
  - jprd 3y ago
    also - my bad formatting aside, I am NOT in favor of 3D printer registration or legislation in any way. That will be silly, counterproductive and even less impactful than having to show my license and sign an affidavit just to buy properly working cold meds in a gorram grocery store.
core-utility 3y ago
Only illegal in certain states, not federally
- PrivateButts 3y ago
  It was federally illegal until 2013 if it's wasn't able to be detected by a metal detector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act Some folks have tried to reintroduce it again. It's one of the few gun laws that even the NRA approved of.
  - 15155 3y ago
    ..if you didn't include a piece of ferrous metal in the frame, which most folks specifically did to comply with that legislation. Not to mention: a magazine and all ammunition is automatically detectable (visually and magnetically.)
PrivateButts 3y ago
AFAIK 3d printed guns aren't illegal as long as they're able to be detected by a metal detector, unless a state has passed a law that imposes an additional restriction.

Committing a crime, such as possessing a 3D printed firearm?

by jprd 3y ago

Committing a crime, such as possessing a 3D printed firearm?

Vt71fcAqt7 3y ago

That is not a crime AFAIK.

edgineer 3y ago
Should you 3d print an auto sear (a little bracket-looking thing) then you're in possession of a machine gun, which is illegal.
- refurb 3y ago
  Why was this downvoted? The federal laws do state that "possession of specific machine gun parts is considered possession of a machine gun" Machine gun sears included. Also parts that convert a semi-automatic into a machine gun like a Lightening Link.
  - commandar 3y ago
    Because it's a non-sequitur. Unregistered machine guns are illegal to possess regardless of how they were made. 3D printing an otherwise legal firearm is not illegal at the Federal level in the United States. The exchange boils down to: Comment: That isn't illegal. Reply: well, if you do this other thing that's illegal, it is.

indigo0086 3y ago

Where is that law applied?

jprd 3y ago
https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/265/265-01(9).pdf https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/265/265-01(9)... https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S14A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S14A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S13A https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S13A https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/080823zr_dc8f.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/080823zr_dc8...
- jprd 3y ago
  also - my bad formatting aside, I am NOT in favor of 3D printer registration or legislation in any way. That will be silly, counterproductive and even less impactful than having to show my license and sign an affidavit just to buy properly working cold meds in a gorram grocery store.

core-utility 3y ago

Only illegal in certain states, not federally

PrivateButts 3y ago
It was federally illegal until 2013 if it's wasn't able to be detected by a metal detector: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act Some folks have tried to reintroduce it again. It's one of the few gun laws that even the NRA approved of.
- 15155 3y ago
  ..if you didn't include a piece of ferrous metal in the frame, which most folks specifically did to comply with that legislation. Not to mention: a magazine and all ammunition is automatically detectable (visually and magnetically.)

PrivateButts 3y ago

AFAIK 3d printed guns aren't illegal as long as they're able to be detected by a metal detector, unless a state has passed a law that imposes an additional restriction.