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Better yet, they now have those e-ink price labels. They could literally update as you walk towards them to show the price they will sell to you. If you walk o

by bArray 3y ago

Better yet, they now have those e-ink price labels. They could literally update as you walk towards them to show the price they will sell to you. If you walk off and don't pick something up, they could then change the offer a little. It's no longer '2 for 1', it's now '3 for 2 with a free X'. Disgusting. > I just can't understand how people have come to accept such erosion of their privacy, ultimately their very own economic interests and agency under the hands of manipulative operators and captured regulators. The frog born in boiling water doesn't realise it is hot, it's all he ever knew. The age bracket with the largest disposable income now doesn't know any different, it's how it always was. > What kind of collective inanity allows such social degeneration. Was it always like that? Is there any hope? No, technology made it far easier. It's now targeted and automated, it's as worse as it has ever been and continues to get worse. There is not a politician in any land willing to do anything about it - more product sold at higher prices means larger taxes. (And that's if the company doesn't lobby on top.)

qwerty456127 3y ago
Even better - criminals will get the data a way or another and find out your purchasing power, when and where you go leaving your house unattended and what they can tell you or your relatives to effortlessly manipulate into just giving them something valuable.
s3p 3y ago
Who has these labels? And if they did, how would they enforce it? How would a checkout counter know what price you were offered by some random computer sitting on a shelf?
- autoexec 3y ago
  It's been being tested in retail already (see for example: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41272-019-00224-3 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41272-019-00224-3) and the main thing holding stores back from implementing it is that most people think discriminatory pricing is wrong. Companies are working very hard to convince us to let them do it though. Their foot in the door is offering "deals" to only certain people. You see this in things like store loyalty cards or Xbox's "just for you" prices (https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-microsoft-store-just-for-you-discounts https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-microsoft-store-just-for...). It's all just trying to condition us to accept that some people deserve different prices/treatment than other people. If I were building this type of system I'd do away with electronic labels and just force people to scan a QR code with their cell phones, then use that data collected from their device to find out their income level, past purchase history, etc. then use that data to display their "price" (subject to change at any moment) right on their device along with ingredients, nutritional data, product information, ads, etc. Then I'd either generate a QR code on their device for them to scan at self-checkout, use Bluetooth to detect the device when they stood at the checkout counter, or use facial recognition. Either way, knowing what price the computer offered would be dead simple and the price of whatever is being purchased could (and probably would) change from the time you picked it off of the shelf and when it got scanned at the register. I'd be your responsibility to accept the prices or not when you pay.

by bArray 3y ago

qwerty456127 3y ago

Even better - criminals will get the data a way or another and find out your purchasing power, when and where you go leaving your house unattended and what they can tell you or your relatives to effortlessly manipulate into just giving them something valuable.

s3p 3y ago

Who has these labels? And if they did, how would they enforce it? How would a checkout counter know what price you were offered by some random computer sitting on a shelf?

autoexec 3y ago
It's been being tested in retail already (see for example: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41272-019-00224-3 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41272-019-00224-3) and the main thing holding stores back from implementing it is that most people think discriminatory pricing is wrong. Companies are working very hard to convince us to let them do it though. Their foot in the door is offering "deals" to only certain people. You see this in things like store loyalty cards or Xbox's "just for you" prices (https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-microsoft-store-just-for-you-discounts https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-microsoft-store-just-for...). It's all just trying to condition us to accept that some people deserve different prices/treatment than other people. If I were building this type of system I'd do away with electronic labels and just force people to scan a QR code with their cell phones, then use that data collected from their device to find out their income level, past purchase history, etc. then use that data to display their "price" (subject to change at any moment) right on their device along with ingredients, nutritional data, product information, ads, etc. Then I'd either generate a QR code on their device for them to scan at self-checkout, use Bluetooth to detect the device when they stood at the checkout counter, or use facial recognition. Either way, knowing what price the computer offered would be dead simple and the price of whatever is being purchased could (and probably would) change from the time you picked it off of the shelf and when it got scanned at the register. I'd be your responsibility to accept the prices or not when you pay.