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> didn't want to spend the effort on actually figuring out the details of their proposal first. This is an over simplification. > can't be bothered > there's
by Affric 3y ago
> didn't want to spend the effort on actually figuring out the details of their proposal first.
This is an over simplification.
> can't be bothered
> there's no way they were actually serious about wanting to change thing
> Seems more like it was just a political stunt / bullshit for some (unknown) reason.
You're assuming malice. If you want some serious analysis from someone who has worked in electoral politics and won campaigns that have been called unwinnable... well, you're here.
It all comes back to the Uluru statement (published in 2017 during the term of the previous government, who did nothing). Perhaps most importantly this line:
> We call for the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution. [1]
Change to the constitution = referendum. I won't go into the details of why it was thought by the authors of the Uluru statement was necessary but it distills down to democratic legitimacy. Theoretically: Demanded by the people, unable to be erased without the will of the people. If you want further details you shouldn't be reading a Hacker News comment. But from this the referendum was necessary for the government to act on the Uluru statement.
Initially support for the voice was polling well. From here the government had to figure out the question to put to Australian electors in a referendum.
Australian politicians are well aware of the electorate's resistance to constitutional change. To give the best chance of success they looked back to previous referenda to determine what an optimal strategy might be like. The two referenda that were considered most important by the campaign were the 1967 Aboriginals referendum and the 1999 Republic referendum.
The 1967 referendum got up. Easily. It was a source of inspiration for many (I daresay all) involved in the Voice referendum. [2] The 1967 referendum was for the voice to remove the words "other than the aboriginal race in any State" [3] from the constitution with regards to Commonwealth government power and a clause about counting Aboriginals in the census. The view amongst the modern campaigners was that the referendum succeeded because the law was viewed as racist and the Australian people were ready for equality; the past is more nuanced than that. The referendum got up because it was pure equality before the law of the Commonwealth government. Australians didn't do it because they abhorred racism, it succeeded because it resonated with the values of a large cross section of society. Conservatives, Liberals, Fabian Socialists, Communists. This broad coalition had a myriad of reasons they all came to the same answer. "Could the voice have a similar path?" was not a question asked. It was viewed entirely with hindsight. In the minds of the yes campaigners the 1967 referendum was Australians abhorred by racism in the constitution.
The 1999 referendum has a lot of myth built around it in the myth of Australia's educated class. A view developed amongst the campaign that part of the reason the referendum failed was that the model was defined when a majority of Australians would support a republic but there was no majority for a single model. This is to some extent true. A view that also exists is that the less popular model was chosen deliberately by Prime Minister Howard to doom the referendum's to failure. This combined with an (internal)acknowledgement that Australians might be uneasy about a voice that was truly independent of Parliament led to them proposing a constitutionally mandated but parliamentary defined Voice. This would also allow the voice to change and grow as needed. I will put forward to readers that the 1999 referendum failed not because a model was defined or because it was sabotaged but because Australians looked at what was on offer and plainly did not believe that there was material benefit to voting yes.
These twin illusions combined with the high in principle support of the voice would cloud the judgement of the yes campaign. They assumed that Australian society viewed itself as structurally racist in its organisation but not the electorate (I agree with the view but don't believe that a majority of Australians view it that way). They also assumed that people would see the value of the voice, prima facie. So, they went ahead, no model defined, sure they would win largely based on good will that they incorrectly believed was very solid.
This led to them exposing their Achilles heel: they had no easy to communicate argument for the voice nor anything a voter could look at. They couldn't explain what it was going to be. They couldn't explain why it needed to exist. They couldn't explain why it needed to be in the constitution. Once the campaign you have called (on the taxpayer dime) is afoot it you would essentially be admitting you think you are going to lose to change the terms and the themes of your campaign. The only way you can really do it is with some kind of external event rocking the system.
For the opposition this was a good opportunity to let the government get itself enough rope and then torch a lot of their political capital. Never interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake. Some of the voices inside the Labor party who were a bit further from the campaign and had clearer sight of it did try to urge the campaign to change tack before the starting gun. They were told their suggested changes would be seen as cynical and retreating.
The Uluru statement authors and yes strategists learnt the wrong lesson from 1967 and 1999 referenda (but not the abolition of ATSIC). The Labor Party silenced voices internally who criticised the strategy. The no campaign figured out the same flaws in the yes campaign and exploited them ruthlessly. The campaign was ritualistic and symbolic rather than based on actual causality. Like most superstition, the believers expended a lot of effort to convince themselves they were doing something that worked, and when it didn't work they did it harder.
It did not fail because of insincerity or lack of effort. Quite the opposite.
[1] Uluru statement from the heart
[2] "In 1967 we were counted, in 2017 we seek to be heard." Uluru statement from the heart
[3] Australian constitution
- justinclift 3y ago> You're assuming malice. No. I'm more assuming they were trying to win some mindshare by doing something progressive sounding, but they had no real intention of following through to make tangible changes. As demonstrated by their lack of effort to actually figure out the details up front, rather than going on a marketing tour and trying to big note themselves. Those aren't the ingredients of good, long term improvements for people. So, rather than "malice" I'm thinking "stupidity or laziness". Either way, no real desire on their part to actually change things for the better. Thankfully the Australian people didn't buy their bullshit. That's my take anyway. :) > They couldn't explain what it was going to be. They couldn't explain why it needed to exist. They couldn't explain why it needed to be in the constitution. Yeah. I lump that into "didn't want to put in the effort to figure things out". They seemed to be wedded to marketing (probably still are), and extremely light on putting in the effort required to actually figure things out. Probably because putting in effort is harder, and might take longer than "before the next election". :(
- Affric 3y ago> they were trying to win some mindshare by doing something progressive sounding, but they had no real intention of following through to make tangible changes That’s the malice you are assuming. And the idea that the voice is no tangible change when it was decried by the previous government as too radical beggars belief. The voice was to be the body to create the basis for negotiations for a treaty between the Commonwealth and the First Nations of Australia. The campaigners aren’t stupid. They aren’t lazy. Sometimes we disagree with people. Sometimes people are wrong. Success has papered over a thousand would be defeats. The best-laid schemes of mice and men, go oft awry, and leave us nothing but grief and pain, for promised joy. The idea that the yes campaign and the government weren’t seriously committed to getting this across the line is laughable. They were simply wrong about the assumptions they were working under. Assumptions that are commonly held in Australia. The referendum was the culmination of a process that began in 2015 when Turnbull was Prime Minister. That’s 3 Federal Elections (and prime ministers) ago. It has been through councils, reports, a convention. They didn’t run the campaign you think they should have. They didn’t run the campaign I think they should have. That doesn’t mean it was a mess of lazy idiots making the wrong decision at every turn.