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>>>But legally speaking it wasn't cruel because it had a practical rather than a punitive basis; and it wasn't unusual because everyone is subjected to the same
by mikecane 15y ago
>>>But legally speaking it wasn't cruel because it had a practical rather than a punitive basis; and it wasn't unusual because everyone is subjected to the same degree of inspection at those facilities; and he hadn't been punished, because he hadn't been convicted; and it wasn't relevant because his counsel (correctly) focused on on other constitutional protections.
Wow. So a cop who brings you in because he had a bad day or doesn't like your skin tone and has you subjected to a strip search isn't punishment? Nor is it cruel? And because everyone is equally degraded, it isn't unusual? Look, you can spout whatever "The law says..." all you want, but this is not what I want my country to become.
- anigbrowl 15y agoIf you try following my train of thought, which is only a few paragraphs long, you'll see that I'm saying the law is deeply flawed.
- mikecane 15y agoYes, I see that. But that middle part irked me too much.
- anigbrowl 15y agoWell, there's a difference between a positive (descriptive) statement of how things are, and a normative statement of how they should be. It's hard to have a constructive discussion of the latter when every statement of the former results in a derailment of the conversation.
- mikecane 15y agoWell, you're taking it personally rather than my being cranky about the wording that clearly described their point of view.
- anigbrowl 15y agoWhen you wrote Look, you can spout whatever "The law says..." all you want [...] then I assumed that your remarks were addressed to me, not to someone else. This exchange is becoming increasingly pointless.
- tptacek 15y agoThis right here is another really annoying message board tic. Outrage trumps understanding, so much so that it's legitimate to rant at someone for not being outraged enough.