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Surely you have to put a lot of trust in Apple as soon as you buy their product?
by vore 3y ago
Surely you have to put a lot of trust in Apple as soon as you buy their product?
- contravariant 3y agoI mean you do need to trust them a bit more when they have the capability to remotely install software.
- marvin 3y agoWell, maybe they had that capability all along, hmm. I guess you trusted that they didn't?
- contravariant 3y agoWell no, I use a phone that I could install an OS on myself.
- christophilus 3y agoIf your phone vendor can install firmware blobs, you have basically the same problem. But I agree that it’s a problem I wish we didn’t have.
- alpaca128 3y agoYou mean like on almost every laptop or phone sold today with their OTA update support? Whether Apple installs the updates before or after you first start the device doesn't change the risk. Maybe you don't install any updates over the entire device lifetime? Okay but what if the firmware runs a keylogger? You always need to put a ton of trust into the company.
- Spooky23 3y ago[flagged]
- contravariant 3y agoYou're starting to read things into my comment that I very much didn't put in, but for the sake of argument sure, let me strengthen my statement a bit. People should have agency over which software gets installed on the devices they own. This starts at the moment they buy the device. So a device installing software while it is in the custody of the shop, sure that's fine. However merely having the capability to install software without physical access or any interaction from the owner of the device is already a threat.
- Spooky23 3y agoPerhaps i over-interpreted. If I came on too strong my apologies. This seems to me like a solution driven by Apple switching to ocean based shipping. I’d be really surprised if a mechanism like this would work after activation.
- op00to 3y agoApple already has the capability to remotely install software on your phone.