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I suspect Hamas aren't stupid and probably used old fashioned methods of getting plans around for this like messengers and paper and pencil. Gaza is a pretty sm

I suspect Hamas aren't stupid and probably used old fashioned methods of getting plans around for this like messengers and paper and pencil. Gaza is a pretty small place and easy to slip into the crowd.

PeterStuer 3y ago
As long as we are guessing: how many Israeli and USA 3 letter agents are deep undercover in Hamas?
matheusmoreira 3y ago
I suspect they allowed it to happen to justify genociding all of them or something of the sort. There's no way they can be that incompetent. I refuse to believe it. They spy on everyone, crack every computer, infiltrate and compromise every organization, plant assets everywhere, we non-government people are forced to live in constant paranoia because of these assholes. And they get surprised by a bunch of terrorists? Might as well just close down those useless agencies, they're good for nothing, total waste of money. We're living in this cyberpunk hellscape because of them and it's all for nothing.
- stracer 3y ago
  Even master of carpentry cut himself from time to time. Fails happen, Yom Kippur 50 years ago was a shock as well. It does not seem likely that this was intentional failure because there are many independent people with integrity even in a hierarchical government structure. What seems more likely is that somebody high enough fucked up and did not sound alarm loud enough. Some Israeli state representatives already admitted guilt. I think you're partially right that policies of the right-wing governments in Israel (apartheid, normalizing relations with Arab countries while ignoring Palestinians) likely helped the Palestinian crazies grow and thus in effect those people in power are partially responsible for this attack on Israel people, whether they realize it or not. I'm not condoning the attack in any way. But responsibility for the atrocities can be shared between actors on many sides.

PeterStuer 3y ago

As long as we are guessing: how many Israeli and USA 3 letter agents are deep undercover in Hamas?

matheusmoreira 3y ago

I suspect they allowed it to happen to justify genociding all of them or something of the sort. There's no way they can be that incompetent. I refuse to believe it. They spy on everyone, crack every computer, infiltrate and compromise every organization, plant assets everywhere, we non-government people are forced to live in constant paranoia because of these assholes. And they get surprised by a bunch of terrorists? Might as well just close down those useless agencies, they're good for nothing, total waste of money. We're living in this cyberpunk hellscape because of them and it's all for nothing.

stracer 3y ago
Even master of carpentry cut himself from time to time. Fails happen, Yom Kippur 50 years ago was a shock as well. It does not seem likely that this was intentional failure because there are many independent people with integrity even in a hierarchical government structure. What seems more likely is that somebody high enough fucked up and did not sound alarm loud enough. Some Israeli state representatives already admitted guilt. I think you're partially right that policies of the right-wing governments in Israel (apartheid, normalizing relations with Arab countries while ignoring Palestinians) likely helped the Palestinian crazies grow and thus in effect those people in power are partially responsible for this attack on Israel people, whether they realize it or not. I'm not condoning the attack in any way. But responsibility for the atrocities can be shared between actors on many sides.