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This sort of stuff (and a lot of other popular things) highlights something that I've felt for years: we are still so far away from a good ops story as an indus
by rtpg 3y ago
This sort of stuff (and a lot of other popular things) highlights something that I've felt for years: we are still so far away from a good ops story as an industry.
Why would someone use this? Because they only want to deal with "one thing" in production. Dealing with multiple stacks is annoying. People show stuff like kubernetes as a way to handle multiple stacks. That stuff is also complicated.
There is still a huge opportunity for a methodology (accessible to non-operators) to get systems in production easily, where we wouldn't feel the need to force it all into these kinds of models.
Having said all of that, this is pretty fun looking!
- axelthegerman 3y agoI hear you about the need for simplistic hosting. However I doubt shoving everything into the DB will get us there - besides some hardcore PG enthusiasts like OP & co. Sqlite together with the application layer of your choice seems to make much more sense to me, but hey we don't have to all like the same stuff (better we don't). Also without reading too much in detail but I wonder how testing/monitoring etc would be supported
- ako 3y agoWhy do you think shoving everything into a DB will not get us there. What about a scalable database platform like snowflake?
- samus 3y agoThe language probably won't be perceived as "sexy" enough compared to, i.e., full-stack JavaScript. Most people don't really like SQL and aren't that good at it. Hence the continued popularity of ORMs that support the often-seen pattern of bulk-loading everything into the application server for processing instead of using a simple UPDATE statement.
- MrBuddyCasino 3y ago> There is still a huge opportunity for a methodology (accessible to non-operators) to get systems in production easily, where we wouldn't feel the need to force it all into these kinds of models. Nomad is a simpler way than K8S to run not just containers, but plain old binaries. Can’t beat K8S network effect. Technical merit or economical efficiency are secondary factors in tech trends.