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Various countries in Europe are doing the same thing [1,2,3]. Just recently, Britain has been threatening to jail people if they show support for the wrong orga

Various countries in Europe are doing the same thing [1,2,3]. Just recently, Britain has been threatening to jail people if they show support for the wrong organizations. Free speech is dead in the vast majority of the world. Casting shade on the "non-west" like Saudi Arabia as though they are alone in this guilt is ignorant at best. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42164853 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42164853 [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/20/austria.thefarright https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/20/austria.thefar... [3] https://jacobin.com/2022/09/queen-death-monarchy-censorship-free-speech https://jacobin.com/2022/09/queen-death-monarchy-censorship-... [4] https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/foreign/uk-threatens-arrests-hamas-supporters-pro-palestine-protesters https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/foreign/uk-threate...

Larrikin 3y ago
How about whatabouting while addressing the dismemberment of a journalist?
- patrick451 3y ago
  Sure. The United States commits extra judicial killings all the time, including of it's own citizens. They have tortured countless innocent people at various dark sites. There is absolutely nothing about the west which is morally superior. The fact that they try to hide these acts or justify them through sophistry makes the west even worse.
  - spondylosaurus 3y ago
    Remember a few years back when cops kept roughing up journalists at anti-brutality protests? There was that one guy who lost an eye to a rubber bullet.
PradeetPatel 3y ago
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. It's crucial to understand when to voice one's views both in a public and private setting.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  Cool. If I was in the 1940s: Me: “You shouldn’t kill Jews.” Nazi: “Get on this train. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, you know.”
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  Yes, it does! Freedom of speech is specifically to prevent the government from retaliating against speech it doesn't like. The consequence of being thrown in jail for saying something the government doesn't like is not just.
- trts 3y ago
  you’re referring to tact or social acceptance gp is referring to government policing of speech and legally punitive consequences
- throw1510231 3y ago
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Larrikin 3y ago

How about whatabouting while addressing the dismemberment of a journalist?

patrick451 3y ago
Sure. The United States commits extra judicial killings all the time, including of it's own citizens. They have tortured countless innocent people at various dark sites. There is absolutely nothing about the west which is morally superior. The fact that they try to hide these acts or justify them through sophistry makes the west even worse.
- spondylosaurus 3y ago
  Remember a few years back when cops kept roughing up journalists at anti-brutality protests? There was that one guy who lost an eye to a rubber bullet.

PradeetPatel 3y ago

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. It's crucial to understand when to voice one's views both in a public and private setting.

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Cool. If I was in the 1940s: Me: “You shouldn’t kill Jews.” Nazi: “Get on this train. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, you know.”
madeofpalk 3y ago
Yes, it does! Freedom of speech is specifically to prevent the government from retaliating against speech it doesn't like. The consequence of being thrown in jail for saying something the government doesn't like is not just.
trts 3y ago
you’re referring to tact or social acceptance gp is referring to government policing of speech and legally punitive consequences
throw1510231 3y ago
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