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If these changes can 4x the average amount of money each user earns Microsoft but half their users quit because of them, they still have doubled revenue.

ghusto 3y ago
In the short term, sure. Now half their user base again for the next release, and then again for the one after. The less people use it, the less software targets it, and the less people use it. If this really is their strategy, it's incredibly short sighted. I doubt it is though. These guys have been in the game for a lot longer than most, they're not stupid.
- tonyhart7 3y ago
  You are wrong, people are stupid average people are, don't count people who visit HN as average not at all, what I mean by average is most people that use something like games, media production etc they dont have a choice because windows still has best ecosystem in this respective areas
- kemotep 3y ago
  If Microsoft isn’t wanting to increase their monetization of me after I bought their software why are they 1) inserting ads across all aspects of their OS and products, 2) switching to a subscription based model when one time purchase models were how they became one of the biggest companies in history? And how is any of this stupid? It makes them more money. Short term? Apple has existed as an alternative since the beginning of Windows 1.0 and has a tiny fraction of the market but a much higher monetization rate. After 40 years and dozens of competitors they still are on top despite hundreds of examples of alleged stupid anti-user behavior. Windows 12 requiring a subscription is only stupid if making money is stupid.
  - ghusto 3y ago
    Apple is a very good example of how making user-hostile changes nets you money. Good point. > Windows 12 requiring a subscription is only stupid if making money is stupid Making money short-term at the price of making sustainable money long-term is stupid. Microsoft is not Apple, so if this really is their goal, I'm glad I sold my stocks high.
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ghusto 3y ago

In the short term, sure. Now half their user base again for the next release, and then again for the one after. The less people use it, the less software targets it, and the less people use it. If this really is their strategy, it's incredibly short sighted. I doubt it is though. These guys have been in the game for a lot longer than most, they're not stupid.

tonyhart7 3y ago
You are wrong, people are stupid average people are, don't count people who visit HN as average not at all, what I mean by average is most people that use something like games, media production etc they dont have a choice because windows still has best ecosystem in this respective areas
kemotep 3y ago
If Microsoft isn’t wanting to increase their monetization of me after I bought their software why are they 1) inserting ads across all aspects of their OS and products, 2) switching to a subscription based model when one time purchase models were how they became one of the biggest companies in history? And how is any of this stupid? It makes them more money. Short term? Apple has existed as an alternative since the beginning of Windows 1.0 and has a tiny fraction of the market but a much higher monetization rate. After 40 years and dozens of competitors they still are on top despite hundreds of examples of alleged stupid anti-user behavior. Windows 12 requiring a subscription is only stupid if making money is stupid.
- ghusto 3y ago
  Apple is a very good example of how making user-hostile changes nets you money. Good point. > Windows 12 requiring a subscription is only stupid if making money is stupid Making money short-term at the price of making sustainable money long-term is stupid. Microsoft is not Apple, so if this really is their goal, I'm glad I sold my stocks high.

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