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> Some people just talk like that. Well, I can live with that but I don't think it extends to writings on forums, social networks, the internet at large. Of c
by johnchristopher 3y ago
> Some people just talk like that.
Well, I can live with that but I don't think it extends to writings on forums, social networks, the internet at large. Of course it depends of the audience (as always) (pluss the medium is the message).
> I would imagine that to OP the purpose of using the world 'shit' isn't condescending or to detract fro the importance of the topic, it's meant to be more personable, to directly engage the person you're talking with in a casual way.
There's that. There's also the possibility of implying that any online discourse is shit (which is an opinion I can hear yet disagree with but ok).
> I find that HN often penalizes users when they write the way that people often speak.
Written and oral English aren't exactly the same language although they have a lot in common (at the very least the rules differ a bit). I'd venture to guess that sentence structures and overall discourse (I mean: the way they use the language to achieve communication, not the grammatical rules to form comprehensive sentences) of someone who swears still show differences between oral and written expression.
Anyway, I am guilty of downvoting comments with too much swear words (because it's noise to me and it's distracting from the topic at hand, either because I have to factor the wow factor into the arguments or to ignore it when it's just how people express themselves).
Funny thing that happened once: I added a "and... language please ?" in my reply to a comment with foul language and the counter reply was "what are you... a child ?". I left it at that but that's precisely because I am an adult that I don't want to discuss using too much swear words.. but I can see how the reverse could be valid for someone else.
In real life, I swear wayyyyyy too much.
- Loughla 3y agoTo me, swear words are like salt and pepper. Some good meals (professional conversations) don't need them. Basic meals (casual conversation) are almost always better with them. Too much is bad for your heart, but they tend to improve the flavor of a discourse.
- Obscurity4340 3y agoSorry, genuine inquiry: what makes you the arbiter over what is and isnt dignified or appropos for a discussion of this calibre and on this medium?
- johnchristopher 3y agoThe way you phrased it I don't think that's a genuine inquiry.
- Obscurity4340 3y agoCan I refer back to your prior response and ask you to update us all regarding your current position in light of this bit?
- johnchristopher 3y agoYou can.
- Obscurity4340 3y agoIt indeed is :) <-- See, I even smiled
- Obscurity4340 3y agoOut of morbid curiosity, why do you arrive at the conclusion that the writing of a person should significantly depart from that of their regular speech patterns? I mean, to be candid, that actually is the case for me in a much different way that isn't relevant in this context and I don't care to discuss but you couldn't be more incorrect and inscrutably so with regard to this context. If I'm being glib, I would say that's a sign of mental illness where there's not a code-switching economic/practical basis for doing so [hmm emoticon]
- Obscurity4340 3y ago[not you but the person who obviously does this to that extent absent any external basis for doing so]
- johnchristopher 3y ago> Out of morbid curiosity, why do you arrive at the conclusion that the writing of a person should significantly depart from that of their regular speech patterns? Here's a good start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_language#Comparison_with_spoken_and_signed_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_language#Comparison_wi... then maybe Variation and Change in Spoken and Written Discourse https://benjamins.com/catalog/ds.21 https://benjamins.com/catalog/ds.21 There's a whole field dedicated to that in linguistics, feel free to turn it upside down. > I mean, to be candid, that actually is the case for me in a much different way that isn't relevant in this context and I don't care to discuss but you couldn't be more incorrect and inscrutably so with regard to this context. Huhu.