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Great - that will certainly be beneficial for everyone with 47Gbps internet lines. Could we have some innovation in the direction of coping with congested RF, p

Great - that will certainly be beneficial for everyone with 47Gbps internet lines. Could we have some innovation in the direction of coping with congested RF, please.

killingtime74 3y ago
We have 2, 6, 8gbps internet lines widely available here in NZ. Current wifi was capped out long ago
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  How much of that is international bandwidth?
  - killingtime74 3y ago
    I guess Australia is international? So most? Depends on how much your ISP has provisioned of course. There are some very premium ones and ones that are less so. You get what you pay for as usual
  - CaptainHardcore 3y ago
    It’s fibre from the home to your provider. New Zealand's current international connectivity is provided by three under-sea fibre optic cables with a combined total throughput of 73 terabits per second.
    - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
      While we're on the topic of nonsense numbers Wolfram Alpha estimates that to be 14 megabits per person
      - killingtime74 3y ago
        Or it could be gigabits available to any person. Since it would be 14 megabits per person per second right, assuming 100% utilisation?
        Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
        I merely told it to divide 73 terabits by the population of New Zealand and to express that in megabits. So yeah no consideration of usage patterns: "nonsense numbers" just like the supposed 46G wifi this story is about.
        killingtime74 3y ago
        I do agree that all these numbers are pretty meaningless . Somehow truth in advertising laws don't apply to many of these claims. Only seen the Australian regulator really crack down on it.
Veliladon 3y ago
What do you think happens when everyone can transmit packets an order of magnitude faster, even if they're not transmitting at the line rate of the link? Average channel utilization drops precipitously and the transmit rates improve in aggregate for everyone. Not to mention governments are opening up 1200MHz of spectrum on the 6GHz band (Wi-Fi 6E and 7) which is helping in heavily congested areas on its own.
- hulitu 3y ago
  > Not to mention governments are opening up 1200MHz of spectrum on the 6GHz band (Wi-Fi 6E and 7) which is helping in heavily congested areas on its own. Just don't come with metallic objects nearby.
t0mas88 3y ago
47Gbps in wifi terms is like living to 200 but in dog years. The real speed will probably not be much more than 1gbit which is a common fiber connection speed. WiFi 6 with a 2023 macbook does not practically deliver 1gbit, even with zero other networks nearby and the macbook 3ft from the access point you'll get something like 700mbit. One factor is that Apple devices so far don't support 160 channel width, only up to 80. But even with a 160 channel you wouldn't make the advertised "5gbit" because that's the aggregated speed across all frequencies and streams, which cannot be combined.
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Great - that will certainly be beneficial for everyone with 47Gbps internet lines. Could we have some innovation in the direction of coping with congested RF, please.

killingtime74 3y ago

We have 2, 6, 8gbps internet lines widely available here in NZ. Current wifi was capped out long ago

dzhiurgis 3y ago
How much of that is international bandwidth?
- killingtime74 3y ago
  I guess Australia is international? So most? Depends on how much your ISP has provisioned of course. There are some very premium ones and ones that are less so. You get what you pay for as usual
- CaptainHardcore 3y ago
  It’s fibre from the home to your provider. New Zealand's current international connectivity is provided by three under-sea fibre optic cables with a combined total throughput of 73 terabits per second.
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
    While we're on the topic of nonsense numbers Wolfram Alpha estimates that to be 14 megabits per person
    - killingtime74 3y ago
      Or it could be gigabits available to any person. Since it would be 14 megabits per person per second right, assuming 100% utilisation?
      - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3y ago
        I merely told it to divide 73 terabits by the population of New Zealand and to express that in megabits. So yeah no consideration of usage patterns: "nonsense numbers" just like the supposed 46G wifi this story is about.
        killingtime74 3y ago
        I do agree that all these numbers are pretty meaningless . Somehow truth in advertising laws don't apply to many of these claims. Only seen the Australian regulator really crack down on it.

Veliladon 3y ago

What do you think happens when everyone can transmit packets an order of magnitude faster, even if they're not transmitting at the line rate of the link? Average channel utilization drops precipitously and the transmit rates improve in aggregate for everyone. Not to mention governments are opening up 1200MHz of spectrum on the 6GHz band (Wi-Fi 6E and 7) which is helping in heavily congested areas on its own.

hulitu 3y ago
> Not to mention governments are opening up 1200MHz of spectrum on the 6GHz band (Wi-Fi 6E and 7) which is helping in heavily congested areas on its own. Just don't come with metallic objects nearby.

t0mas88 3y ago

47Gbps in wifi terms is like living to 200 but in dog years. The real speed will probably not be much more than 1gbit which is a common fiber connection speed. WiFi 6 with a 2023 macbook does not practically deliver 1gbit, even with zero other networks nearby and the macbook 3ft from the access point you'll get something like 700mbit. One factor is that Apple devices so far don't support 160 channel width, only up to 80. But even with a 160 channel you wouldn't make the advertised "5gbit" because that's the aggregated speed across all frequencies and streams, which cannot be combined.

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