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Service departments probably hate EVs and since dealerships make a fortune on service, they probably hate EVs too.
by throwaway5959 3y ago
Service departments probably hate EVs and since dealerships make a fortune on service, they probably hate EVs too.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoWhy? Are they hard to work on, or just not profitable for some reason?
- closeparen 3y agoThey’re simpler, lower-maintenance machines.
- lowbloodsugar 3y agoThey don’t go wrong. It’s an electric motor instead of a reciprocating machine that explodes 100 times per second, combines water cooling and oil lubrication. That said, car and driver reports that the yearly costs were about the same for a Tesla because of the price of fixing things like a broken windshield.
- mgarfias 3y agoDon’t forget the teslas eat a set of tires every 20-25k miles
- NewJazz 3y agoThat depends on how you drive...?
- mgarfias 3y ago25k for a set of tires driving pretty moderately. I got better life out of corvettes tires and that included track/autox time
- lowbloodsugar 3y agoYou were using the wrong tires! You can get a lot more out of a corvette just by getting off stock tires! But yes, the tires are an added expense compared to what someone might be used to on a Kia Rio.
- mgarfias 3y agoIm swapping it to softer rubber when she’s running. The tires will wear out due to heat cycles before it runs out to tread depth with as much driving as it’s going to see.
- qingcharles 3y agoAre you saying the Teslas eat more tyres than an ICE car? What is the reason? Extra weight of batteries? Special low resistance tyres? Increased torque spinning wheels from start?
- throwaway5959 3y agoThey do, the torque plays a big factor, but I’d rather replace tires than pay the maintenance schedule for a 100k miles in an ICE car.
- mgarfias 3y agoIn the past 2years I’ve spent about 7k in tire related items on the MYP. I’ve spent ~ 250 in maintenance on my truck in that time frame. Note: I had to replace a bent wheel on the Tesla in July due to Portland roads. Then last month a different wheel cracked (also Portland roads). Rather than putting on another pos Tesla OE wheel for $900 I opted to get a nice set of forged wheels (19” vs 21”) for 2k. Gives me more sidewall to hopefully absorb the impacts and not bend the wheels.
- throwaway5959 3y agoSounds like a Tesla problem, of which there are many. Thankfully there are many other non-Tesla EVs out there now.
- mgarfias 3y agoRivians are eating tires too.
- lowbloodsugar 3y agoPerformance. The “heavy” conversation is something of a myth. My buddy said that so we looked up his car and it was 400lb heavier. My mustang made it about 10k miles per set of tires.
- throwaway5959 3y agoWhat about for other EV manufacturers?
- renegade-otter 3y agoThere is a bit in "Who killed the electric car?" about how GM EV1 was different from gas cars in that way. It made the "grease-covered mechanic" basically history. They are very clean vehicles to work on.
- throwaway5959 3y agoAn EV drive train may have 20 parts, an ICE drive train will have over a thousand. Here’s some parts an ICE car has that an EV doesn’t I can think of off the top of my head: - Spark Plugs - Starter - Catalytic Converter - Muffler - Piston Rings - Complicated transmission vs reduction gear The list goes on. All of these parts will eventually need to be serviced or replaced. Also with no tailpipe emissions, all of those smog check places eventually go out of business as we transition to EVs.
- peteradio 3y agoB.S. There are not 1000+ replaceable parts unless you are counting them on the subpart per assembly. Mechanics replace assemblies not subparts.
- qingcharles 3y agoThat is true, but it's the subparts that break and require a whole sealed assembly to be replaced.
- throwaway5959 3y agoNot sure why you’re so upset but I only said there were 1000+ parts. Why would I want to manufacture a drive train with 1000s of parts (even in assemblies they still have to be made) vs 20?
- peteradio 3y agoI'm sorry you could hear me sobbing through text but the reality is ice drive trains are battle tested for 100 years. Ice vehicles are more reliable.
- kmeisthax 3y agoThis is suspected to be the reason why GM shitcanned their EV project back in the 90s. EVs have less routine maintenance. I also harbor a further conspiracy theory that Tesla specifically adopted serialized everything so that they could substitute lower service revenue with "just go buy a new one". Every other automaker getting into EVs has similarly locked down their cars.