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Using likenesses of a person is different than creating CGI extras in the background. They're not using anyone's likeness with background actors. And where wou

Using likenesses of a person is different than creating CGI extras in the background. They're not using anyone's likeness with background actors. And where would the NO FAKES Act draw the line? Would the studio be unable to create hundreds of thousands of soldiers in a battle? What if the soldiers were humanoid aliens or robots?

besus 3y ago
Yeah, just think of how the battle scene at Helm's Deep would look if they weren't able to use CGI. AI generated CGI is just the next step forward. Write and produce good content and we'll watch, subscribe, and buy.
- XorNot 3y ago
  Yes but if we all approached this sensibly, then someone on Twitter couldn't get offended on behalf of a hypothetical person, in an industry they don't work in our understand, about a topic that's become the flavour of the month for virtue signalling and thus get their own big break as the internet's main character for the week. And then what would happen to the Twitter outrage industry? No one thinks of the real victims here /s.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    >And then what would happen to the Twitter outrage industry? I would love to see it all burn in the dumpster fire of its own making. It would be the ultimate in karmic self-correct. Too bad I don't really believe in that kind of stuff.
- dylan604 3y ago
  They don't want you to buy though. They want you to subscribe/rent. So I'm guessing that before too long, the "buy" button will go the way of the dodo. Phase I has already been initiated with Best Buy discontinuing sales of shiny round discs: https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/best-buy-ending-dvd-blu-ray-disc-sales-1235754919/ https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/best-buy-ending-dvd-bl...
  - brookst 3y ago
    Should Best Buy insist on selling products most people don’t want? And IMO it is a mistake to use your own guesses as evidence supporting your guesses.
    - SoftTalker 3y ago
      Yeah I would guess that with the ease of streaming, few consumers want to bother with physical media any more. For me, I usually watch a movie once. I’d much rather pay a few dollars to stream it than pay ten times that to buy a disc that will just sit on a shelf.
      - jstarfish 3y ago
        Owning used to make more sense when there was less overall product. When you can't find something new to watch, you could fall back on a copy of something solid. I can't remember the last time I rewatched anything...
    - dylan604 3y ago
      It was a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek bit of commentary on today's eternal rent-seeking culture. However, the studios have always been this way, and to doubt that is just planting your head firmly in the sand. From the early days of VHS/Beta tapes, an ordinary citizen could not own them strictly from the high prices. Also, look at the legal writings on any physical media you've purchased. The terms clearly limit what you can do with it. Let's also not forget DRM. The holy grail for them is a per-viewing fee whether that's ticket sales at a theater, or rental fees from a streamer. Allowing eternal multiple viewings is just leaving money on the table. If you think conversations about how to eliminate that have not occurred in a C-suite at any/all of the studios, you're just not thinking about it enough
nsxwolf 3y ago
The Disney clip may not have any relevance to the AI content issues of the day, but it’s bad. Incredibly bad. Of course you would use CGI to create thousands of soldiers. But 5 extras in a gymnasium? That saved them what, $500? The more unnecessary the use of CGI, the more distracting and offensive it is.
- NBJack 3y ago
  I suspect it was trying to avoid a re-shoot. The extras are cheap, but if you find an error in the composition of the scene after you shot it, you'd have to bring everyone back in, setup the set, etc.

besus 3y ago

Yeah, just think of how the battle scene at Helm's Deep would look if they weren't able to use CGI. AI generated CGI is just the next step forward. Write and produce good content and we'll watch, subscribe, and buy.

XorNot 3y ago
Yes but if we all approached this sensibly, then someone on Twitter couldn't get offended on behalf of a hypothetical person, in an industry they don't work in our understand, about a topic that's become the flavour of the month for virtue signalling and thus get their own big break as the internet's main character for the week. And then what would happen to the Twitter outrage industry? No one thinks of the real victims here /s.
- dylan604 3y ago
  >And then what would happen to the Twitter outrage industry? I would love to see it all burn in the dumpster fire of its own making. It would be the ultimate in karmic self-correct. Too bad I don't really believe in that kind of stuff.
dylan604 3y ago
They don't want you to buy though. They want you to subscribe/rent. So I'm guessing that before too long, the "buy" button will go the way of the dodo. Phase I has already been initiated with Best Buy discontinuing sales of shiny round discs: https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/best-buy-ending-dvd-blu-ray-disc-sales-1235754919/ https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/best-buy-ending-dvd-bl...
- brookst 3y ago
  Should Best Buy insist on selling products most people don’t want? And IMO it is a mistake to use your own guesses as evidence supporting your guesses.
  - SoftTalker 3y ago
    Yeah I would guess that with the ease of streaming, few consumers want to bother with physical media any more. For me, I usually watch a movie once. I’d much rather pay a few dollars to stream it than pay ten times that to buy a disc that will just sit on a shelf.
    - jstarfish 3y ago
      Owning used to make more sense when there was less overall product. When you can't find something new to watch, you could fall back on a copy of something solid. I can't remember the last time I rewatched anything...
  - dylan604 3y ago
    It was a light-hearted tongue-in-cheek bit of commentary on today's eternal rent-seeking culture. However, the studios have always been this way, and to doubt that is just planting your head firmly in the sand. From the early days of VHS/Beta tapes, an ordinary citizen could not own them strictly from the high prices. Also, look at the legal writings on any physical media you've purchased. The terms clearly limit what you can do with it. Let's also not forget DRM. The holy grail for them is a per-viewing fee whether that's ticket sales at a theater, or rental fees from a streamer. Allowing eternal multiple viewings is just leaving money on the table. If you think conversations about how to eliminate that have not occurred in a C-suite at any/all of the studios, you're just not thinking about it enough

nsxwolf 3y ago

The Disney clip may not have any relevance to the AI content issues of the day, but it’s bad. Incredibly bad. Of course you would use CGI to create thousands of soldiers. But 5 extras in a gymnasium? That saved them what, $500? The more unnecessary the use of CGI, the more distracting and offensive it is.

NBJack 3y ago
I suspect it was trying to avoid a re-shoot. The extras are cheap, but if you find an error in the composition of the scene after you shot it, you'd have to bring everyone back in, setup the set, etc.