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Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.

by leobg 3y ago

progbits 3y ago
I've recently noticed a lot of them have a "skip to the recipe" link on top which just scrolls down. Kind of ridiculous.
toastal 3y ago
Often, I like getting the context & history of a recipe. When researching foreign dishes these things help me understand a lot about what might be acceptable ingredient substitutes.
- toastal 3y ago
  I guess I’m in the minority. Wow.
walthamstow 3y ago
Any recipe that shows up on the first page of Google is shit anyway, IMO/IME. There are maybe four or five websites I trust with recipes, anything else I get from a book.
Gareth321 3y ago
“I know you’d like this recipe for potato salad, but first, let’s explore the history of the humble potato. Where did it come from? What is its cultural significance? Could this mighty spud someday change the world? Hi, I’m Leslie Snark, and I’ve travelled the world eating delicious food to bring you the best recipes.”
- evertedsphere 3y ago
  "But before we finally get to the recipe, I'm sure you're dying to know many languages my grandmother knew the word for 'potato' in. Excellent question! In 1710, according to what I've been able to find out from my Ancestry.com results [affiliate link], my great-uncle's ..."
  - hashar 3y ago
    "But first you need the proper cooking tooling. I recently came across Acme Inc. tea spoons to provide an healthy cooking suitable for vegans. Made of stainless steel based on the latest research, the cheap spoon can be bought through my refer link which you can find here among an assorted list of recommended tools"
- rendall 3y ago
  Looking for the ultimate potato salad experience? When it comes to potato salad our potato salad is a game-changer in the world of potato salad. Made with farm-fresh ingredients, this potato salad recipe will elevate your potato salad picnic to a gourmet potato salad feast. Whether you're a potato salad novice or a potato salad connoisseur, our potato salad recipe is guaranteed to impress. Don't settle for ordinary potato salad, indulge in the best potato salad ever. Come explore the potato salad possibilities with us! Potato salad has never been this exciting, potato salad.
  - lowtech8 3y ago
    Exactly!
  - themulticaster 3y ago
    When choosing a bowl for your potato salad, you need to keep some important properties of potato salad bowls in mind. Different bowls have different designs that make some better suited to storing potato salad than others. For example, a higher quality bowl might have been manufactured to a higher standard than a subpar bowl. You might also want to choose different bowls depending on the amount of potato salad you want to prepare. There are bigger bowls and smaller bowls, differing in size and thus in the amount of potato salad they can accommodate. A smaller bowl is great when you're aiming to cook for just a few people, while a larger bowl is ideal for bigger groups. Brand name bowls like the classic SALADBOWL(tm) are preferred by some potato salad fans, while others appreciate the great price offered by newer, less established brands. Keep in mind that while a cheaper bowl is more affordable, it can also break more easily, so it's not a bad idea to compare the warranty period offered by different manufacturers. Disclaimer: Not a native speaker, I hope I got the annoying structure of those "what to look for when buying X" blog articles right...
asim 3y ago
Had the exact same experience time and time again. Ended up having to literally write my own recipe app https://mu.app/recipes https://mu.app/recipes. Every so often I copy one from the internet and store it there. Saves me so much time not having to wade through a ton of Ads. The web is unusable at this point.
- someidiot123 3y ago
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pndy 3y ago
Personally I rate as the worst all these SEO generated sites that pop in search results when you're trying to look up for solution for problem xyz - tips, tricks and tutorials - the triple T.
Fricken 3y ago
Going back to the 1950s, there were futuristic concepts renderings of "the kitchen of the future" in which wifey could use her computer terminal to easily call up recipes. My trigger point arrived about 3 years ago when I couldn't find a basic brownie recipe using Google. Just page after page of SEO shit. Google failed at the future. Although, to be fair, I'm so accustomed to being able to effortlessly access some kinds of information that one forgets there was ever a pain point there in the first place.
- Roark66 3y ago
  I use chatgpt for such things(and I'm working hard on getting an equivalent service quality from my local models as I hate the not-at-all-OpenAI, but they have the best model now). Then again I never know if the thing it says are true recipes or hallucinations. If you think about it, it's exactly like on the general Internet.
  - Too 3y ago
    How well does that work? I would imagine recipes iate really hard to entrust to chatgpt. At least for baking, where ratios and timing is crucial. LLMs have very bad sense of numbers generally. How would you verify it’s not all bogus hallucinations? At best it’s a source of inspiration, for ingredients you can freestyle from yourself.
    - Roark66 3y ago
      I didn't mean recipes specifically, but this type of question where I'm looking for a very specific short answer. For example, I don't know if some software has some specific feature, or I ask, write me a short python script fragment that does this or that. Or how do I reverse a git commit that was pushed etc. Or what is the thermal conductivity of kingpin extreme paste. All are very specific things years ago I would use Google to search for, but today Google is almost useless on this. It does hallucinate sometimes, it writes programs using non existent apis etc, but I've found asking it "is what you said correct" or "is it true?" or "how did you came up with this answer" tend to produce replies like : I'm sorry, this is wrong, this is good instead. On rare occasion it also produces a bad answer and when you ask it will alternate betetwo bad answers, but most of the time it does pretty well. Here I tried asking it for a recipe for chocolate brownies. I also tried to find out if it gave correct answers. Based on my past use I'd say it's pretty likely the recipe is OK. What do you think? https://chat.openai.com/share/2b36e42c-b6f2-42f3-b67e-f4a5a7aa8b8a https://chat.openai.com/share/2b36e42c-b6f2-42f3-b67e-f4a5a7...
iefbr14 3y ago
Buy yourself a few recipe books from the seventies and the eighties in a thriftstore and your are good to go for a few bucks.
- culebron21 3y ago
  I'd love to have a small recipe book with laminated pages, like notepad, to hang above the cooking table and just use as checklist. Browsing a physical book nowadays seems much faster than getting to the recipe on a website.
the-dude 3y ago
This is not because of SEO per se : Recipes are not copyrightable ( ? is that word ), but bullshit is.
wffurr 3y ago
Serious Eats has become by go-to. They make it real easy to go straight to the recipe. There’s also a well written article about the actual recipe development process with insights into why the recipe is the way it is. I also enjoy Kenji Lopez-Alt’s writing. They found a way to write those SEO-friendly articles but also keep their site usable and even deliver actual value with the article. It’s really impressive.
- paradox460 3y ago
  Their book, The Food Lab, is worth every cent
CM30 3y ago
Still not sure whether this is for SEO reasons (needs more unique content to rank) or legal ones (recipes alone are not copyrightable), but it's definitely led to a perfect storm of bad content and filler bullshit. Also remember hearing that recipe bloggers absolutely freak out over sites that give you just the recipe and cut said fluff.
_dain_ 3y ago
https://based.cooking/ https://based.cooking/
huntoa 3y ago
There are old famous cook books that are in the public domain, digitally available for free, such as "A guide to modern cookery" (original: "Le Guide Culinaire") by renowned French chef Auguste Escoffier: English: https://archive.org/details/b21530142 https://archive.org/details/b21530142 German: https://digital.slub-dresden.de/id392948516 https://digital.slub-dresden.de/id392948516 French: https://archive.org/details/leguideculinaire00esco_0 https://archive.org/details/leguideculinaire00esco_0 I like the illustrations from this German one, published in 1581: http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN824825497 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?P...

Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.

by leobg 3y ago

Recipe blogs are the most horrible example. The amount of BS you have to scroll through to get to the actual recipe.

I've recently noticed a lot of them have a "skip to the recipe" link on top which just scrolls down. Kind of ridiculous.

toastal 3y ago

Often, I like getting the context & history of a recipe. When researching foreign dishes these things help me understand a lot about what might be acceptable ingredient substitutes.

toastal 3y ago
I guess I’m in the minority. Wow.

walthamstow 3y ago

Any recipe that shows up on the first page of Google is shit anyway, IMO/IME. There are maybe four or five websites I trust with recipes, anything else I get from a book.

Gareth321 3y ago

“I know you’d like this recipe for potato salad, but first, let’s explore the history of the humble potato. Where did it come from? What is its cultural significance? Could this mighty spud someday change the world? Hi, I’m Leslie Snark, and I’ve travelled the world eating delicious food to bring you the best recipes.”

evertedsphere 3y ago
"But before we finally get to the recipe, I'm sure you're dying to know many languages my grandmother knew the word for 'potato' in. Excellent question! In 1710, according to what I've been able to find out from my Ancestry.com results [affiliate link], my great-uncle's ..."
- hashar 3y ago
  "But first you need the proper cooking tooling. I recently came across Acme Inc. tea spoons to provide an healthy cooking suitable for vegans. Made of stainless steel based on the latest research, the cheap spoon can be bought through my refer link which you can find here among an assorted list of recommended tools"
rendall 3y ago
Looking for the ultimate potato salad experience? When it comes to potato salad our potato salad is a game-changer in the world of potato salad. Made with farm-fresh ingredients, this potato salad recipe will elevate your potato salad picnic to a gourmet potato salad feast. Whether you're a potato salad novice or a potato salad connoisseur, our potato salad recipe is guaranteed to impress. Don't settle for ordinary potato salad, indulge in the best potato salad ever. Come explore the potato salad possibilities with us! Potato salad has never been this exciting, potato salad.
- lowtech8 3y ago
  Exactly!
- themulticaster 3y ago
  When choosing a bowl for your potato salad, you need to keep some important properties of potato salad bowls in mind. Different bowls have different designs that make some better suited to storing potato salad than others. For example, a higher quality bowl might have been manufactured to a higher standard than a subpar bowl. You might also want to choose different bowls depending on the amount of potato salad you want to prepare. There are bigger bowls and smaller bowls, differing in size and thus in the amount of potato salad they can accommodate. A smaller bowl is great when you're aiming to cook for just a few people, while a larger bowl is ideal for bigger groups. Brand name bowls like the classic SALADBOWL(tm) are preferred by some potato salad fans, while others appreciate the great price offered by newer, less established brands. Keep in mind that while a cheaper bowl is more affordable, it can also break more easily, so it's not a bad idea to compare the warranty period offered by different manufacturers. Disclaimer: Not a native speaker, I hope I got the annoying structure of those "what to look for when buying X" blog articles right...

asim 3y ago

Had the exact same experience time and time again. Ended up having to literally write my own recipe app https://mu.app/recipes https://mu.app/recipes. Every so often I copy one from the internet and store it there. Saves me so much time not having to wade through a ton of Ads. The web is unusable at this point.

someidiot123 3y ago
[dead]

pndy 3y ago

Personally I rate as the worst all these SEO generated sites that pop in search results when you're trying to look up for solution for problem xyz - tips, tricks and tutorials - the triple T.

Fricken 3y ago

Going back to the 1950s, there were futuristic concepts renderings of "the kitchen of the future" in which wifey could use her computer terminal to easily call up recipes. My trigger point arrived about 3 years ago when I couldn't find a basic brownie recipe using Google. Just page after page of SEO shit. Google failed at the future. Although, to be fair, I'm so accustomed to being able to effortlessly access some kinds of information that one forgets there was ever a pain point there in the first place.

Roark66 3y ago
I use chatgpt for such things(and I'm working hard on getting an equivalent service quality from my local models as I hate the not-at-all-OpenAI, but they have the best model now). Then again I never know if the thing it says are true recipes or hallucinations. If you think about it, it's exactly like on the general Internet.
- Too 3y ago
  How well does that work? I would imagine recipes iate really hard to entrust to chatgpt. At least for baking, where ratios and timing is crucial. LLMs have very bad sense of numbers generally. How would you verify it’s not all bogus hallucinations? At best it’s a source of inspiration, for ingredients you can freestyle from yourself.
  - Roark66 3y ago
    I didn't mean recipes specifically, but this type of question where I'm looking for a very specific short answer. For example, I don't know if some software has some specific feature, or I ask, write me a short python script fragment that does this or that. Or how do I reverse a git commit that was pushed etc. Or what is the thermal conductivity of kingpin extreme paste. All are very specific things years ago I would use Google to search for, but today Google is almost useless on this. It does hallucinate sometimes, it writes programs using non existent apis etc, but I've found asking it "is what you said correct" or "is it true?" or "how did you came up with this answer" tend to produce replies like : I'm sorry, this is wrong, this is good instead. On rare occasion it also produces a bad answer and when you ask it will alternate betetwo bad answers, but most of the time it does pretty well. Here I tried asking it for a recipe for chocolate brownies. I also tried to find out if it gave correct answers. Based on my past use I'd say it's pretty likely the recipe is OK. What do you think? https://chat.openai.com/share/2b36e42c-b6f2-42f3-b67e-f4a5a7aa8b8a https://chat.openai.com/share/2b36e42c-b6f2-42f3-b67e-f4a5a7...

iefbr14 3y ago

Buy yourself a few recipe books from the seventies and the eighties in a thriftstore and your are good to go for a few bucks.

culebron21 3y ago
I'd love to have a small recipe book with laminated pages, like notepad, to hang above the cooking table and just use as checklist. Browsing a physical book nowadays seems much faster than getting to the recipe on a website.

the-dude 3y ago

This is not because of SEO per se : Recipes are not copyrightable ( ? is that word ), but bullshit is.

wffurr 3y ago

Serious Eats has become by go-to. They make it real easy to go straight to the recipe. There’s also a well written article about the actual recipe development process with insights into why the recipe is the way it is. I also enjoy Kenji Lopez-Alt’s writing. They found a way to write those SEO-friendly articles but also keep their site usable and even deliver actual value with the article. It’s really impressive.

paradox460 3y ago
Their book, The Food Lab, is worth every cent

CM30 3y ago

Still not sure whether this is for SEO reasons (needs more unique content to rank) or legal ones (recipes alone are not copyrightable), but it's definitely led to a perfect storm of bad content and filler bullshit. Also remember hearing that recipe bloggers absolutely freak out over sites that give you just the recipe and cut said fluff.

_dain_ 3y ago

https://based.cooking/ https://based.cooking/

huntoa 3y ago

There are old famous cook books that are in the public domain, digitally available for free, such as "A guide to modern cookery" (original: "Le Guide Culinaire") by renowned French chef Auguste Escoffier: English: https://archive.org/details/b21530142 https://archive.org/details/b21530142 German: https://digital.slub-dresden.de/id392948516 https://digital.slub-dresden.de/id392948516 French: https://archive.org/details/leguideculinaire00esco_0 https://archive.org/details/leguideculinaire00esco_0 I like the illustrations from this German one, published in 1581: http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN824825497 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?P...