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> EDIT: $53,469, just shy of a $10k premium over ICE vehicles. I'm guessing this doesn't account for the fact that you'll have to buy a new one every 5 years w

by bakugo 3y ago

> EDIT: $53,469, just shy of a $10k premium over ICE vehicles. I'm guessing this doesn't account for the fact that you'll have to buy a new one every 5 years when the batteries go bad.

coryrc 3y ago
Weird, I guess I didn't drive my 2013 Leaf with original batteries 100 miles today.
r00fus 3y ago
My 5yo EV is doing great and the range degradation is like 3%. 68k miles on it also.
- lostmsu 3y ago
  What model?
wlesieutre 3y ago
Oh no 5-10% less range better throw the whole car out
alex_duf 3y ago
This is just factually incorrect
thebruce87m 3y ago
Can you explain what made you write this comment? I see it all the time on Facebook and I’d love to understand what drives people to spout misinformation about EVs. Cobalt, fires, diesel powered charging stations, they simply can’t wait to spread some nonsense.
- jjav 3y ago
  I mean the OP is exagerating wildly, but the range does decrease. We had a Fiat 500 leased for 3 years and in just 3 years the range decreased from ~90 to about 75 (almost 20% decrease).
  - thebruce87m 3y ago
    Not doubting you, and different manufacturers are doing different things - e.g. Nissan did a pretty good job of putting people off EVs by not watercooling their batteries, but some info below: > Tesla Battery Life > How long does a Tesla battery last? The data shows that a typical Tesla battery will last in excess of 10 years. We say this with some degree of confidence because even the 10-year-old batteries were still delivering around 80% of the original range. > Tesla Battery Replacement Cost UK > The team at NimbleFins has made some calls and been given ballpark figures to get a Tesla battery replacement starting from £8,000 plus labour (from one Tesla repair centre) and £10,000 including labour (from an independent repair shop). We've heard some readers think the figure could be even higher. https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-deterioration https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-d... My Tesla costs 3p/mile to run with sentry mode on etc. If we generously say that a diesel would be 12p/mile the fuel savings over 120,000 miles would cover the cost of a new battery. Assuming 80% isn’t enough at that point and that battery costs remain the same. Lots of variables in there of course.
Rebelgecko 3y ago
Good thing literally every EV has an 8 year battery warranty minimum

by bakugo 3y ago

> EDIT: $53,469, just shy of a $10k premium over ICE vehicles. I'm guessing this doesn't account for the fact that you'll have to buy a new one every 5 years when the batteries go bad.

coryrc 3y ago

Weird, I guess I didn't drive my 2013 Leaf with original batteries 100 miles today.

r00fus 3y ago

My 5yo EV is doing great and the range degradation is like 3%. 68k miles on it also.

lostmsu 3y ago
What model?

wlesieutre 3y ago

Oh no 5-10% less range better throw the whole car out

alex_duf 3y ago

This is just factually incorrect

thebruce87m 3y ago

Can you explain what made you write this comment? I see it all the time on Facebook and I’d love to understand what drives people to spout misinformation about EVs. Cobalt, fires, diesel powered charging stations, they simply can’t wait to spread some nonsense.

jjav 3y ago
I mean the OP is exagerating wildly, but the range does decrease. We had a Fiat 500 leased for 3 years and in just 3 years the range decreased from ~90 to about 75 (almost 20% decrease).
- thebruce87m 3y ago
  Not doubting you, and different manufacturers are doing different things - e.g. Nissan did a pretty good job of putting people off EVs by not watercooling their batteries, but some info below: > Tesla Battery Life > How long does a Tesla battery last? The data shows that a typical Tesla battery will last in excess of 10 years. We say this with some degree of confidence because even the 10-year-old batteries were still delivering around 80% of the original range. > Tesla Battery Replacement Cost UK > The team at NimbleFins has made some calls and been given ballpark figures to get a Tesla battery replacement starting from £8,000 plus labour (from one Tesla repair centre) and £10,000 including labour (from an independent repair shop). We've heard some readers think the figure could be even higher. https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-deterioration https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/study-real-life-tesla-battery-d... My Tesla costs 3p/mile to run with sentry mode on etc. If we generously say that a diesel would be 12p/mile the fuel savings over 120,000 miles would cover the cost of a new battery. Assuming 80% isn’t enough at that point and that battery costs remain the same. Lots of variables in there of course.

Rebelgecko 3y ago

Good thing literally every EV has an 8 year battery warranty minimum