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I will laugh my way to the bank with my ten year old Toyota that has only required oil changes!

by jzig 3y ago

bobobob420 3y ago
that's great. and it has good resale value. the engine will always be solid which we can't say for degrading batteries.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Source?
Schiendelman 3y ago
It hasn't just required oil changes. It also requires fuel, which is increasingly much, much more expensive than electricity. Gas systems also degrade over time - MPG drops with the life of a vehicle, and it's not actually clear that behavior is much different from battery range loss...
- PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
  I would like an EV. But I have a 14 year old Honda Fit. Its MPG has not dropped at all over time. It has needed nothing but wear-and-tear maintanance and new spark plug coil things. 190k miles. Gas prices vary, but I have a car already, and it seems at least questionable that it is more environmentally sound that this vehicle remains in use till its true end of life. I am not particularly motivated by money, but I can buy a lot of gas for the cost of a new vehicle, so the cost argument feels weak.
- MisterBastahrd 3y ago
  And EVs become expensive bricks in about 10 years time.
  - bobobob420 3y ago
    or elon gets mad and turns off access to your car.
  - Schiendelman 3y ago
    When they first came out, people claimed it was three years. Then five. None of it has come true.
  - belltaco 3y ago
    Thats a myth.
- jzig 3y ago
  Sort of baited you. I drive a Prius. Great, I’ve gone 45 to 35 mpg :)
- lelanthran 3y ago
  > MPG drops with the life of a vehicle, and it's not actually clear that behavior is much different from battery range loss... That's incorrect. Not sure where you heard that. MPG drops, sure, but it's so little it's hardly worth measuring. My intra-city full-tank range on a previous petrol car I owned went from (when almost new) ~800km to (350000km later) ~780km. No repairs other than services. The other cars I've owned show no measurable difference in range as wear increased.
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- jjav 3y ago
  > MPG drops with the life of a vehicle That is not true. As a fan of older used cars, I would notice. It's not true.

I will laugh my way to the bank with my ten year old Toyota that has only required oil changes!

by jzig 3y ago

I will laugh my way to the bank with my ten year old Toyota that has only required oil changes!

bobobob420 3y ago

that's great. and it has good resale value. the engine will always be solid which we can't say for degrading batteries.

belltaco 3y ago
Source?

Schiendelman 3y ago

It hasn't just required oil changes. It also requires fuel, which is increasingly much, much more expensive than electricity. Gas systems also degrade over time - MPG drops with the life of a vehicle, and it's not actually clear that behavior is much different from battery range loss...

PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
I would like an EV. But I have a 14 year old Honda Fit. Its MPG has not dropped at all over time. It has needed nothing but wear-and-tear maintanance and new spark plug coil things. 190k miles. Gas prices vary, but I have a car already, and it seems at least questionable that it is more environmentally sound that this vehicle remains in use till its true end of life. I am not particularly motivated by money, but I can buy a lot of gas for the cost of a new vehicle, so the cost argument feels weak.
MisterBastahrd 3y ago
And EVs become expensive bricks in about 10 years time.
- bobobob420 3y ago
  or elon gets mad and turns off access to your car.
- Schiendelman 3y ago
  When they first came out, people claimed it was three years. Then five. None of it has come true.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Thats a myth.
jzig 3y ago
Sort of baited you. I drive a Prius. Great, I’ve gone 45 to 35 mpg :)
lelanthran 3y ago
> MPG drops with the life of a vehicle, and it's not actually clear that behavior is much different from battery range loss... That's incorrect. Not sure where you heard that. MPG drops, sure, but it's so little it's hardly worth measuring. My intra-city full-tank range on a previous petrol car I owned went from (when almost new) ~800km to (350000km later) ~780km. No repairs other than services. The other cars I've owned show no measurable difference in range as wear increased.
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jjav 3y ago
> MPG drops with the life of a vehicle That is not true. As a fan of older used cars, I would notice. It's not true.