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> which is contrary to common practice around strength development This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles. Surprisingly, the fitn

> which is contrary to common practice around strength development This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles. Surprisingly, the fitness influencers on tiktok are leading the charge in changing minds about this.

livueta 3y ago
Interesting - guess that hasn't percolated through to my traditional powerlifting-ish circles yet. I'd love to read/watch anything on this you've found useful.
- tayo42 3y ago
  Idk the bro science i always heard, for at least 10 to 15 years, suggests that strength is alot of stuff like neurons firing. You can take time off from lifting and get back to it pretty quick. Size from body building is mostly targeting hypertrophy, breaking down muscle and have then regrow to be larger. Strength and size would normally correlate but couldn't get someone's strength just from their size.
  - livueta 3y ago
    Oh yeah, no doubt about that. I've observed the same picking back up after injuries, and some version of this whole thing is ultimately what's backing the concept of cutting. Definitely not trying to say that mass equals power or anything. I'm just trying to zero in on the gains while not at surplus thing, because ime I can lift all day but don't gain (as measured by increasing lift capacity) jack shit unless I also eat big. I don't particularly love bulking and cutting, though, so I was kinda hoping there was a trick I was missing.
logicchains 3y ago
That Ukrainian guy on tiktok who only weighs around 80kg but can deadlift over 270kg.
- elondaits 3y ago
  Anatoly. Very fun channel on YouTube.
rsync 3y ago
"This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles." This is a mistake and one that can be extrapolated to the much larger world. Real world growth implies building in excess of the target and then trimming the leftover. I don't care if you're planning a battle charge or setting your family finances or going for massive gains in your delts: exact allocation of resources is doomed to fail. In fact: the "bro science" of bulking up in a training phase and then "cutting" to a competition weight, etc., is revealing a deeper truth about the world.

livueta 3y ago

Interesting - guess that hasn't percolated through to my traditional powerlifting-ish circles yet. I'd love to read/watch anything on this you've found useful.

tayo42 3y ago
Idk the bro science i always heard, for at least 10 to 15 years, suggests that strength is alot of stuff like neurons firing. You can take time off from lifting and get back to it pretty quick. Size from body building is mostly targeting hypertrophy, breaking down muscle and have then regrow to be larger. Strength and size would normally correlate but couldn't get someone's strength just from their size.
- livueta 3y ago
  Oh yeah, no doubt about that. I've observed the same picking back up after injuries, and some version of this whole thing is ultimately what's backing the concept of cutting. Definitely not trying to say that mass equals power or anything. I'm just trying to zero in on the gains while not at surplus thing, because ime I can lift all day but don't gain (as measured by increasing lift capacity) jack shit unless I also eat big. I don't particularly love bulking and cutting, though, so I was kinda hoping there was a trick I was missing.

logicchains 3y ago

That Ukrainian guy on tiktok who only weighs around 80kg but can deadlift over 270kg.

elondaits 3y ago
Anatoly. Very fun channel on YouTube.

rsync 3y ago

"This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles." This is a mistake and one that can be extrapolated to the much larger world. Real world growth implies building in excess of the target and then trimming the leftover. I don't care if you're planning a battle charge or setting your family finances or going for massive gains in your delts: exact allocation of resources is doomed to fail. In fact: the "bro science" of bulking up in a training phase and then "cutting" to a competition weight, etc., is revealing a deeper truth about the world.