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> I'm perfectly happy to pay for YouTube premium. It supports the creators that I watch and I don't see ads. When I'm on TikTok, I get ads and yet... they feel

> I'm perfectly happy to pay for YouTube premium. It supports the creators that I watch and I don't see ads. When I'm on TikTok, I get ads and yet... they feel completely unobtrusive. I also find myself actually watching ads on TikTok - they're relatable, fit into my interests, etc.. It's interesting too that a real effort at putting together a great looking ad is made. For example... I will see low-end ADs on TikTok re: vitamins. Not interested but... wow! They are fantastically made (AI generated: both visuals and audio). In contrast, when I'm on Youtube, the ads are obnoxious and have little to do with my interests. They may be political, they may be related to big pharma pushing pills that I have no interest in. There is little effort at even producing anything entertaining. Also, if I click on a 2 minute video, I start off with a couple of ads and I might even see an ad in the middle. I might also see the creator start off with a sponsor AD at the start or at some point in the middle. One site takes the user experience into consideration (TikTok). The other (YT) is a warzone. I can no longer access the original article (they blocked my VPN...) but I recall reading it was a laughable $14 a month. I'm laughing all the way to the alternatives...

Ferret7446 3y ago
That may be because you're blocking YouTube from using your personal data to target ads, whereas TikTok is extremely aggressive about harvesting your personal data with no opt-out.
- O1111OOO 3y ago
  > That may be because you're blocking YouTube from using your personal data to target ads, whereas TikTok is extremely aggressive about harvesting your personal data with no opt-out. I have always gotten ads from YT (whether I opt in or not). Google is extremely aggressively at harvesting data too. The entire ecosystem is the wild west of privacy violations. Google itself is literally known for that - it's their entire business model:-) On the Desktop, it gets better with my choice of browsers and a couple of ad-blockers (uBlock and Sponsorblock). On Android, they remain extremely annoying. As for TikTok... the constant warnings from Main Stream Media have me concerned. So I use a dedicated tablet. No contacts, Fake name, devoid of much except the TikTok app, 3rd-party browser and built-in apps. I am certain that even on this dedicated throwaway tablet, Google knows it's me and is (aggressively) collecting data. It's what they do:-)
bastawhiz 3y ago
I mean, I'm not sure what you're upset about. You can pay to make the experience better. I do, and it's quite pleasant. Nearly all of your complaints are addressed by paying roughly the same amount you'd pay for Netflix, plus you get Google's first party music service with your subscription (which still allows you to upload your own music files). > I recall reading it was a laughable $14 a month. I'm laughing all the way to the alternatives... I spend less on YouTube than I spend on two trips to Starbucks. YouTube premium costs less than unlimited Kagi searches. The cost per hour of utility (in addition to supporting the creators you're consuming the content from) overwhelmingly pays for itself in single digits of hours.
- O1111OOO 3y ago
  > I mean, I'm not sure what you're upset about. Oops... sorry if my tone was overly aggressively. I'm usually careful about that.
- tomjen3 3y ago
  Unlimited kagi searches are 10 usd a month so thats demonstrably false. Netflix is also a premium streaming service, with premium content. YouTube is not.

Ferret7446 3y ago

That may be because you're blocking YouTube from using your personal data to target ads, whereas TikTok is extremely aggressive about harvesting your personal data with no opt-out.

O1111OOO 3y ago
> That may be because you're blocking YouTube from using your personal data to target ads, whereas TikTok is extremely aggressive about harvesting your personal data with no opt-out. I have always gotten ads from YT (whether I opt in or not). Google is extremely aggressively at harvesting data too. The entire ecosystem is the wild west of privacy violations. Google itself is literally known for that - it's their entire business model:-) On the Desktop, it gets better with my choice of browsers and a couple of ad-blockers (uBlock and Sponsorblock). On Android, they remain extremely annoying. As for TikTok... the constant warnings from Main Stream Media have me concerned. So I use a dedicated tablet. No contacts, Fake name, devoid of much except the TikTok app, 3rd-party browser and built-in apps. I am certain that even on this dedicated throwaway tablet, Google knows it's me and is (aggressively) collecting data. It's what they do:-)

bastawhiz 3y ago

I mean, I'm not sure what you're upset about. You can pay to make the experience better. I do, and it's quite pleasant. Nearly all of your complaints are addressed by paying roughly the same amount you'd pay for Netflix, plus you get Google's first party music service with your subscription (which still allows you to upload your own music files). > I recall reading it was a laughable $14 a month. I'm laughing all the way to the alternatives... I spend less on YouTube than I spend on two trips to Starbucks. YouTube premium costs less than unlimited Kagi searches. The cost per hour of utility (in addition to supporting the creators you're consuming the content from) overwhelmingly pays for itself in single digits of hours.

O1111OOO 3y ago
> I mean, I'm not sure what you're upset about. Oops... sorry if my tone was overly aggressively. I'm usually careful about that.
tomjen3 3y ago
Unlimited kagi searches are 10 usd a month so thats demonstrably false. Netflix is also a premium streaming service, with premium content. YouTube is not.