Well honestly, if your product requires a significant amount of marketing dollars to reach "product market fit", is it really PMF? Going by the definitions sta

Well honestly, if your product requires a significant amount of marketing dollars to reach "product market fit", is it really PMF? Going by the definitions stated by Marc Andreessen and some of the YC Partners, product market fit is when you don't really need to spend marketing dollars because your product is growing so organically (with minimal marketing spend) that your team is barely able to keep up with the growth. Chatbase is a very good example for a PMF product, one that comes off my head, and that didn't require any VC funding. On the other hand, I remember a YC startup launching similar in the summer, but I don't remember its name now.