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> So your answer is, “Google has always done this free tier so I’m entitled to it forever.” Please don't try to put words in my mouth. My answer was perfectly

> So your answer is, “Google has always done this free tier so I’m entitled to it forever.” Please don't try to put words in my mouth. My answer was perfectly clear and easy to understand. You implied that adsense revenue is a major income source for content creators - this simply isn't true. As for why or why I don't want to pay them for Premium: Premium does not convince me as an offering. Price is too high and there is a distinct lack of features. I will use YouTube until they stop servicing people with AdBlock, then I am going to stop using the platform. (blocking ads isn't illegal in my jurisdiction). > I agree this sucks, but it’s not realistic to just ignore the issue until YouTube is shut down I really _really_ don't care about the future of some Silicon Valley conglomerate. But I see nothing negative about YouTube shutting down or taking a blow - it would open up the market for new competitors such as floatplane. YouTube's MOAT is not with it's service offerings, but with it's content creators. These people will look for alternative providers if they experience a major drop in their audience due to this new monetization.

ok_dad 3y ago
I didn’t say anything about creators vs whatever. You’re putting words in my mouth. I said this all, end to end, costs money, and today ads pay for those who cannot afford premium. Off you don’t want to pay, and don’t want to watch ads, your choice is to not watch YouTube. It’s simple. I wish there was a third option! I think it would suck for YouTube to shut down, it has a lot of good content and the alternatives are much worse (today at least).
belltaco 3y ago
> My answer was perfectly clear and easy to understand. You implied that adsense revenue is a major income source for content creators - this simply isn't true. Source? If it's "simply" not true you should probably have some solid sources to back it up. From the article YT's ad revenue is $7.7B per quarter. They take about 32% and pay out 68%. So they probably pay content creators about $15 billion per quarter, which is $60B annualized. How is that not a major source of revenue for content creators? Discovery or recommendations which is what drives traffic to content creators is non-existent on Floatplane, even LTT is still all over YT. In fact they use YouTube to push Floatplane subs for insider content. If they weren't on YT how would they acquire new Floatplane customers? By paying for ads online? To people who may not even know what LTT or their content is? You have to subscribe to each individual content creator on Floatpane, you'd be paying far more than the $14/month that YT costs. Just LTT is $5/month to include some exclusives, and $10/month for 4K. YT includes 4K by default with both free and paid. So people who are resisting paying $14/month for all of YT's billions of videos are going to pay $5 to $10 per month for every single channel they watch in a month? No way.

ok_dad 3y ago

I didn’t say anything about creators vs whatever. You’re putting words in my mouth. I said this all, end to end, costs money, and today ads pay for those who cannot afford premium. Off you don’t want to pay, and don’t want to watch ads, your choice is to not watch YouTube. It’s simple. I wish there was a third option! I think it would suck for YouTube to shut down, it has a lot of good content and the alternatives are much worse (today at least).

belltaco 3y ago

> My answer was perfectly clear and easy to understand. You implied that adsense revenue is a major income source for content creators - this simply isn't true. Source? If it's "simply" not true you should probably have some solid sources to back it up. From the article YT's ad revenue is $7.7B per quarter. They take about 32% and pay out 68%. So they probably pay content creators about $15 billion per quarter, which is $60B annualized. How is that not a major source of revenue for content creators? Discovery or recommendations which is what drives traffic to content creators is non-existent on Floatplane, even LTT is still all over YT. In fact they use YouTube to push Floatplane subs for insider content. If they weren't on YT how would they acquire new Floatplane customers? By paying for ads online? To people who may not even know what LTT or their content is? You have to subscribe to each individual content creator on Floatpane, you'd be paying far more than the $14/month that YT costs. Just LTT is $5/month to include some exclusives, and $10/month for 4K. YT includes 4K by default with both free and paid. So people who are resisting paying $14/month for all of YT's billions of videos are going to pay $5 to $10 per month for every single channel they watch in a month? No way.