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> By passing new laws with the EC. right, so it can't, thank you > You act like the British Parliament can pass law without government approval. Spoiler alert
by blibble 3y ago
> By passing new laws with the EC.
right, so it can't, thank you
> You act like the British Parliament can pass law without government approval. Spoiler alert: it can’t.
are you a time traveler from before the 1640s?
there was a civil war fought over this point, parliament won and is sovereign
the parliamentary majority and government are not the same thing
this should be obvious to anyone from the 2019-2020 mess where the government didn't have a majority
there is no government approval anywhere in the legislative process
most bills are proposed by government ministers (by the fact they also happen to be parliamentarians), but this is also not a requirement
bills can be proposed and passed into law entirely by parliament, they're called "private members bills"
- scott_w 3y agoYou’re confusing theory and fact: in theory, private members bills can be passed. In practice, that rarely happens if the government doesn’t want it to, irrespective of what Parliament wants. Denying parliamentary time is one way, simply disregarding it (HS2) is another. It’s interesting you cite as evidence a time where LITERALLY NO LEGISLATION WAS PASSED and think it supports your argument…
- blibble 3y ago> You’re confusing theory and fact: in theory, private members bills can be passed. In practice, that rarely happens if the government doesn’t want it to right, so your previous statement: "it can’t." has now changed to "that rarely happens" I'm done here
- scott_w 3y agoNo, I pointed out that they ABSOLUTELY DO NOT PASS if government doesn’t want them to. They RARELY pass most of the time anyway. But you think a time that Parliament couldn’t do anything is evidence Parliament is able to overrule government in practice. I’m not holding out hope for your critical thinking so just take your victory where you can: in your imagination.