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I can't speak from personal experience, but Jessica Kent has a video [0] describing how she was able to rebuild her life post-prison. It's not quite the same, b

by Nzen 3y ago

I can't speak from personal experience, but Jessica Kent has a video [0] describing how she was able to rebuild her life post-prison. It's not quite the same, but ex-convicts in the US definitely have to work against stigma to eke out a living and shelter. I'll be frank, though, there is definitely a lot of luck. [0] https://youtu.be/4y0EoVooPIg?si=PzXw3DsNa_mp5dpH&t=26 https://youtu.be/4y0EoVooPIg?si=PzXw3DsNa_mp5dpH&t=26 10 min, time is after the preamble.

clubm8 3y ago
I have never been convicted of a crime. Maybe I should do crime, then get the sympathy criminals get? I'm not sure I follow your logic.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  You seem to be in a somewhat reactionary state right now, so it might help if the parallels are made a bit more clear. People getting out of prison: * Have an employment gap in their work history * Are overcoming stigma that makes it difficult for them to get most kinds of jobs * Have to overcome the catch-22 of trying to find a decent place to sleep while also trying to find money to afford such a place * Don't generally have a ton of connections for entering the non-criminal workforce * Often don't have property or other assets coming out of prison While you don't have a criminal record, and therefore may have to overcome different types of stigma, it sounds like you share all of these. It does sound like you have a place to stay at the moment, and some assets (a laptop?), so in some ways you may be even be able to skip a step or two of the advice that might be in that video.
  - Nzen 3y ago
    I endorse this assessment of why I linked that Jessica Kent video. tl;dr She focused on convincing an employer to try her out on a job with a sales commission, so she could earn money at a multiple of her time, to save as much as she could. She directly invoked sympathy to get the first landlord to take a chance on her. But, she only found someone willing after several months under the somewhat exploitative regime of them insisting she pay for her own background check that - given her history - knew might set them off. The commission-based job is the insight I gleaned from the video that isn't trite ('keep trying'). You might, nonetheless feel some commiseration of someone who had almost nothing. I also acknowledge that there is survivor bias in pointing at her story, when many other ex-convicts had a harder time that did include homelessness or return to prison.

by Nzen 3y ago

clubm8 3y ago

I have never been convicted of a crime. Maybe I should do crime, then get the sympathy criminals get? I'm not sure I follow your logic.

pcthrowaway 3y ago
You seem to be in a somewhat reactionary state right now, so it might help if the parallels are made a bit more clear. People getting out of prison: * Have an employment gap in their work history * Are overcoming stigma that makes it difficult for them to get most kinds of jobs * Have to overcome the catch-22 of trying to find a decent place to sleep while also trying to find money to afford such a place * Don't generally have a ton of connections for entering the non-criminal workforce * Often don't have property or other assets coming out of prison While you don't have a criminal record, and therefore may have to overcome different types of stigma, it sounds like you share all of these. It does sound like you have a place to stay at the moment, and some assets (a laptop?), so in some ways you may be even be able to skip a step or two of the advice that might be in that video.
- Nzen 3y ago
  I endorse this assessment of why I linked that Jessica Kent video. tl;dr She focused on convincing an employer to try her out on a job with a sales commission, so she could earn money at a multiple of her time, to save as much as she could. She directly invoked sympathy to get the first landlord to take a chance on her. But, she only found someone willing after several months under the somewhat exploitative regime of them insisting she pay for her own background check that - given her history - knew might set them off. The commission-based job is the insight I gleaned from the video that isn't trite ('keep trying'). You might, nonetheless feel some commiseration of someone who had almost nothing. I also acknowledge that there is survivor bias in pointing at her story, when many other ex-convicts had a harder time that did include homelessness or return to prison.