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I don’t know a lot about the beetles but wasn’t the song strawberry fields forever what finally drove The Beach Boys drummer insane? Like he had spent so much t

I don’t know a lot about the beetles but wasn’t the song strawberry fields forever what finally drove The Beach Boys drummer insane? Like he had spent so much time/effort on a new kind of music and the beetles just blew past him and all his work. Iirc he said that song was everything he dreamed of and it just poured out of the beetles effortlessly.

southwesterly 3y ago
Also, weren’t the drums in Strawberry Fields backwards?
- gizajob 3y ago
  No
2bitencryption 3y ago
The story you're thinking of is about Brian Wilson, the creative force behind the Beach Boys and one of the only real artists of the time who could arguably be considered a peer of The Beatles. Personally I've never seen a really strong source for that story, only anecdotes. I think it's an oversimplification to say "Strawberry Fields" made Brian Wilson insane. Instead, he was in a mental decline already. The pressure of "Brian Wilson is a genius" was getting to him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson_is_a_genius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson_is_a_genius There's a similar story with stronger sources, though. If you want to know about Brian's state of mind around that time, listen to his song Heroes and Villains. Basically, Brian worked on this song like it was his magnum opus, trying to reach the level of Sgt. Pepper. Quoting from Wikipedia (sue me): > For Wilson, the single's failure came to serve as a pivotal point in his psychological decline, and he adopted the song title as a term for his auditory hallucinations. > In the September/October 1967 issue of Crawdaddy!, journalist and magazine founder Paul Williams wrote that the song "originally had a chorus of dogs barking, cropped when Brian heard Sergeant Pepper, and was in many ways - the bicycle rider - a far different song."[39] > Wilson held onto the final mix of the song for about a month. On the evening of July 11, 1967, he was told by his astrologer (a woman named Genevelyn) that the time was right for the record to be heard by the public. Without informing Capitol, Wilson called his bandmates and, accompanied by producer Terry Melcher, traveled by limo to personally deliver a vinyl cut of the record to KHJ Radio.[72] According to Melcher, as Wilson excitedly offered the record for radio play, the DJ refused, citing program directing protocols.[77][78] Melcher recalled: "Brian almost fainted! It was all over. He'd been holding onto the record [and] had astrologers figuring out the correct moment. It really killed him. Finally they played it, but only after a few calls to the program director or someone, who screamed, 'Put it on, you idiot!' But the damage to Brian had already been done."[79] And this is all the tip of the iceberg. To have an even better understanding, you'd need to listen to the Smile! sessions, and the eventual 2004 "completed" recording of Smile!. Personally, I think Brian was a genius (well, is; he's still alive, though not looking too good these days, sadly). But unlike The Beatles, who were four friends with an unbelievably tight bond (even after their breakup), Brian had no one else in the Beach Boys who could match him. And I think it was a weight on his shoulders, and that combined with the drug use (and likely a stroke at some point, which is obvious if you ever hear him speak post ~1968) brought his downfall.
- crabkin 3y ago
  to be fair Dennis and Carl could put out some amazing work, like the Carl produced all i wanna do or dennis penned Forever. But I don't think it negates your point just wanted to add to it.
lovemenot 3y ago
I don't know much about the beech boys, but didn't the bassist from the Beatles, once admit to admiring the beech boys' sound?
- JKCalhoun 3y ago
  Yes, Paul McCartney and Brian Wilson admired one another. Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys wrote the amazing "God Only Knows" ... supposedly then inspired the Beatles Paul McCartney to write "Here, There and Everywhere". Both amazing songs.
- beautron 3y ago
  I see what you did there ;) Yes, Paul McCartney is a big fan of the album Pet Sounds. He bought a copy for each of his children to teech them about music. He elaborates about Pet Sounds a great deal in the interview below: https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/interview/paul-mccartney-spoke-about-pet-sounds/ https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/interview/paul-mcc...
JKCalhoun 3y ago
Poor Brian didn't have a partner like McCartney. A composer appears to benefit enormously from a "second set of ears". It seems an artist gets too close to their creation and they lose perspective. The naive partner hears it for the first time and sees clearly how a bridge naturally follows.

southwesterly 3y ago

Also, weren’t the drums in Strawberry Fields backwards?

gizajob 3y ago
No

2bitencryption 3y ago

The story you're thinking of is about Brian Wilson, the creative force behind the Beach Boys and one of the only real artists of the time who could arguably be considered a peer of The Beatles. Personally I've never seen a really strong source for that story, only anecdotes. I think it's an oversimplification to say "Strawberry Fields" made Brian Wilson insane. Instead, he was in a mental decline already. The pressure of "Brian Wilson is a genius" was getting to him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson_is_a_genius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson_is_a_genius There's a similar story with stronger sources, though. If you want to know about Brian's state of mind around that time, listen to his song Heroes and Villains. Basically, Brian worked on this song like it was his magnum opus, trying to reach the level of Sgt. Pepper. Quoting from Wikipedia (sue me): > For Wilson, the single's failure came to serve as a pivotal point in his psychological decline, and he adopted the song title as a term for his auditory hallucinations. > In the September/October 1967 issue of Crawdaddy!, journalist and magazine founder Paul Williams wrote that the song "originally had a chorus of dogs barking, cropped when Brian heard Sergeant Pepper, and was in many ways - the bicycle rider - a far different song."[39] > Wilson held onto the final mix of the song for about a month. On the evening of July 11, 1967, he was told by his astrologer (a woman named Genevelyn) that the time was right for the record to be heard by the public. Without informing Capitol, Wilson called his bandmates and, accompanied by producer Terry Melcher, traveled by limo to personally deliver a vinyl cut of the record to KHJ Radio.[72] According to Melcher, as Wilson excitedly offered the record for radio play, the DJ refused, citing program directing protocols.[77][78] Melcher recalled: "Brian almost fainted! It was all over. He'd been holding onto the record [and] had astrologers figuring out the correct moment. It really killed him. Finally they played it, but only after a few calls to the program director or someone, who screamed, 'Put it on, you idiot!' But the damage to Brian had already been done."[79] And this is all the tip of the iceberg. To have an even better understanding, you'd need to listen to the Smile! sessions, and the eventual 2004 "completed" recording of Smile!. Personally, I think Brian was a genius (well, is; he's still alive, though not looking too good these days, sadly). But unlike The Beatles, who were four friends with an unbelievably tight bond (even after their breakup), Brian had no one else in the Beach Boys who could match him. And I think it was a weight on his shoulders, and that combined with the drug use (and likely a stroke at some point, which is obvious if you ever hear him speak post ~1968) brought his downfall.

crabkin 3y ago
to be fair Dennis and Carl could put out some amazing work, like the Carl produced all i wanna do or dennis penned Forever. But I don't think it negates your point just wanted to add to it.

lovemenot 3y ago

I don't know much about the beech boys, but didn't the bassist from the Beatles, once admit to admiring the beech boys' sound?

JKCalhoun 3y ago
Yes, Paul McCartney and Brian Wilson admired one another. Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys wrote the amazing "God Only Knows" ... supposedly then inspired the Beatles Paul McCartney to write "Here, There and Everywhere". Both amazing songs.
beautron 3y ago
I see what you did there ;) Yes, Paul McCartney is a big fan of the album Pet Sounds. He bought a copy for each of his children to teech them about music. He elaborates about Pet Sounds a great deal in the interview below: https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/interview/paul-mccartney-spoke-about-pet-sounds/ https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/interview/paul-mcc...

JKCalhoun 3y ago

Poor Brian didn't have a partner like McCartney. A composer appears to benefit enormously from a "second set of ears". It seems an artist gets too close to their creation and they lose perspective. The naive partner hears it for the first time and sees clearly how a bridge naturally follows.