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Is a deputy director really an exec? My understanding is that typically VP and up is considered an exec. And a director would be responsible for decisionmaking
by lukevp 3y ago
Is a deputy director really an exec? My understanding is that typically VP and up is considered an exec. And a director would be responsible for decisionmaking in a large scale; while a deputy director would focus on execution of the vision of the director.
- resoluteteeth 3y agoI think titles are somewhat different for this type of agency than for companies in the private sector. If you look at the page that has the executive bios at https://dot.ca.gov/about-caltrans/executive-biographies https://dot.ca.gov/about-caltrans/executive-biographies there isn't anyone with the title "VP" but "deputy director" seems to roughly be the equivalent of a VP title at a private sector company.
- MollyRealized 3y agoExecutives are usually people of high rank in an organization who make decisions, manage operations, and overseeprojects - often for long-term strategic planning and execution - and have managerial and leadership tasks. Yes, I think a deputy director does that, when the director is considered the top executive of the agency. This appears to be an anti-whistleblower action.
- junofan 3y agoUsually means P&L responsibility for a business unit.
- jeffbee 3y agoThe Director is the top job at Caltrans. "Deputy Director of Whatever" is equivalent to "Chief Whatever Officer" at companies.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> Is a deputy director really an exec? Yes, in California state departments generally, the "Director" is the CEO, the "Chief Deputy Director" is the COO, and the other principal executives (including generally most that have CxO style working titles, in the departments which use them, though there are some exceptions) will be Deputy Directors. Caltrans specifically: https://dot.ca.gov/about-caltrans/departmental-organizational-chart https://dot.ca.gov/about-caltrans/departmental-organizationa... Note that the CFO, CIO, and Chief Engineer are (among the) Deputy Directors. > My understanding is that typically VP and up is considered an exec. California state departments don't have officers titled "President" or "Vice President" (also, in lots of private entities, VPs and even Senior VPs are not executives, but Executive VPs are, so the "VP and up" rule doesn't necessarily work even where VPs exist.)
- lukevp 3y agoThanks for the explanation, this context helps a lot!
- ksherlock 3y agoVP doesn't necessarily mean anything. Goldman Sachs has 12,000 vice presidents, give or take. Not one of them will ever get a call at 3AM because DJ Solomon took some MDMA laced with Fentanyl and they need to be sworn in as CEO. Long ago at a job far away, there were account executives who schmoozed with clients. One day the CEO snapped his fingers and made them all vice presidents. Why? So they would look more important when they schmoozed with actual executives. Then again, maybe they were schmoozing with people who also had inflated titles.
- chronic63903 3y ago> VP doesn't necessarily mean anything. Goldman Sachs has 12,000 vice presidents, give or take. Everyone knows VP at a bank is a junior title. Managing director (MD) is the real boss. Similar to tech, everyone knows senior SWE (L5/E5) is a junior/entry-level role. Whereas senior staff SWEs (L7/E7) are the real hot shots.
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 3y agoL5 is junior now? Whelp. I know they're nobodies in the grand scheme of big tech but I wouldn't exactly call them juniors, at least not in terms of skill. Maybe power within the company. But I guess that's what you meant.