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Do you think doxxing, privacy, and free speech is not of interest to HN readers? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37852784 https://news.ycombinator.com/ite

Do you think doxxing, privacy, and free speech is not of interest to HN readers? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37852784 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37852784 I see that the post is not flagged anymore, but it was for a couple of days after it was submitted and the damage is already done as far as visibility goes.

defrost 3y ago
It was unflagged for several hours when fresh, 80 people commented, myself included. It got the regular amount of visibily and then was hit with meconium accounts doing wall of text dumps about nazis and kill, kill, kill, etc - leading to the flagging. The topic itself was discussed in multiple threads, so there was no undue lack of coverage given it's all related to a very topical, political, non tech, tangental to HN subject.
- hjoldic 3y ago
  > and then was hit with meconium accounts doing wall of text dumps about nazis and kill, kill, kill, etc - leading to the flagging. So, it was okay to flag it because some users were writing unreasonably vile comments? If this tactic works, then it would be a good way to get something flagged.
  - defrost 3y ago
    It's OK to flag anything - that's free will at play. It's especially OK to flag things that are off-topic as per the guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html as opposed to: On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. There was very little in the linked thread that gratified intellectual curiosity.
    - hjoldic 3y ago
      > It's OK to flag anything - that's free will at play. If it was organic and from regular users, I would agree with you. However, I don't think it is, considering how targeted the flagging is. If you don't agree with me, then at least consider the possibility. Wouldn't you want to make it harder for people to do that?
      - defrost 3y ago
        There are already barriers to flagging, many threads get flagged by people who have passsed those barriers and are deemed entitled to flag. A number of flagged posts are vouched for, leading to posts being unflagged - such as the linked post which is no longer flagged. You appear to be arguing that the ocean should be wetter.
        hjoldic 3y ago
        I have provided a link that was flagged, but it's not flagged anymore. So, it was both deemed to be a valid submission and for the most part it was invisible to users - ergo, the damage was done. What you are describing obviously doesn't work.

defrost 3y ago

It was unflagged for several hours when fresh, 80 people commented, myself included. It got the regular amount of visibily and then was hit with meconium accounts doing wall of text dumps about nazis and kill, kill, kill, etc - leading to the flagging. The topic itself was discussed in multiple threads, so there was no undue lack of coverage given it's all related to a very topical, political, non tech, tangental to HN subject.

hjoldic 3y ago
> and then was hit with meconium accounts doing wall of text dumps about nazis and kill, kill, kill, etc - leading to the flagging. So, it was okay to flag it because some users were writing unreasonably vile comments? If this tactic works, then it would be a good way to get something flagged.
- defrost 3y ago
  It's OK to flag anything - that's free will at play. It's especially OK to flag things that are off-topic as per the guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html as opposed to: On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. There was very little in the linked thread that gratified intellectual curiosity.
  - hjoldic 3y ago
    > It's OK to flag anything - that's free will at play. If it was organic and from regular users, I would agree with you. However, I don't think it is, considering how targeted the flagging is. If you don't agree with me, then at least consider the possibility. Wouldn't you want to make it harder for people to do that?
    - defrost 3y ago
      There are already barriers to flagging, many threads get flagged by people who have passsed those barriers and are deemed entitled to flag. A number of flagged posts are vouched for, leading to posts being unflagged - such as the linked post which is no longer flagged. You appear to be arguing that the ocean should be wetter.
      - hjoldic 3y ago
        I have provided a link that was flagged, but it's not flagged anymore. So, it was both deemed to be a valid submission and for the most part it was invisible to users - ergo, the damage was done. What you are describing obviously doesn't work.