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Not everyone is interested in playing games in 4880p at 245 FPS. Besides the obvious diminishing returns, consuming this much power and generating this much e-w

Not everyone is interested in playing games in 4880p at 245 FPS. Besides the obvious diminishing returns, consuming this much power and generating this much e-waste for entertainment is irresponsible.

JohnBooty 3y ago
Yeah. I've got a "low end" AMD card... 24" 1080p at mid-high settings and 100+ FPS is "enough." That's just my personal preference. If somebody else feels differently that's fine.
networkchad 3y ago
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LoganDark 3y ago
I like 4k60 because it allows me to re-use my existing 4k monitor that I use for reading code. To play a game at 1080p, I need a dedicated third-party application, because changing the resolution of the desktop is absolutely criminal and also results in blurry scaling artifacts rather than the perfect integer scaling that it should be.
- poglet 3y ago
  What application are you using?
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - LoganDark 3y ago
    It's called "Lossless Scaling" and you can find it on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ You have to buy it and then switch the branch to version 1.6, because the new UWP version doesn't work properly.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  4k to 1080p is a perfect integer scale. One pixel at 1920x1080 is a 2x2 pixel block at 3840x2160. Changing the resolution of the desktop indeed has hideous effects in Windows. If my external monitor loses power for half a second, all my windows get forcibly resized to fit within the limits of my laptop's built-in screen. It is inconceivable to me that someone might actually want this functionality. And yet somehow, if I close a window, unplug the external monitor, and reopen the window, it will open in the inaccessible virtual space where the external monitor used to be, and I have to use keyboard commands to move it onto the visible screen. I don't want either of those things to happen, but I'm prepared to believe that I have to live with one or the other. (I'd rather have the second problem than the first one.) Why are both of them happening?
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    > 4k to 1080p is a perfect integer scale. One pixel at 1920x1080 is a 2x2 pixel block at 3840x2160. Exactly. It's one of the reasons why I mandate 4k and not 1440p, in addition to it also being a perfect 3x multiple of 720p, which is absolutely godlike for games like FTL: Faster Than Light.
- redox99 3y ago
  Most games these days support DLSS and FSR. You should never run games at 1080p output, but instead whatever internal resolution you can handle, upscaled to 4k output.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    I don't want that compromise on quality. Additionally, the quality of the DLSS/FSR integration itself varies by game, and I play plenty of non-AAA titles that either don't have the setting altogether, or commit grave sins such as upscaling GUI elements.
    - redox99 3y ago
      What compromise? A game with 1080p internal resolution upscaled to 4k with DLSS on a 4k monitor looks way better than 1080p native on a 1080p monitor.
      - LoganDark 3y ago
        If the game implements upscaling correctly. Even then, I'm not a big fan of using upscaling myself, I'm not sure why.
- blitzar 3y ago
  I like spending $1,500 on a graphics card so I can re-use my existing $4,000 4k monitor to play pong.
  - LoganDark 3y ago
    My entire computer costed $999. The GPU is probably around $400 of that. The 4k monitor I'm using costed $70. It's a cheap aluminum enclosure around a laptop panel.

JohnBooty 3y ago

Yeah. I've got a "low end" AMD card... 24" 1080p at mid-high settings and 100+ FPS is "enough." That's just my personal preference. If somebody else feels differently that's fine.

networkchad 3y ago

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LoganDark 3y ago

I like 4k60 because it allows me to re-use my existing 4k monitor that I use for reading code. To play a game at 1080p, I need a dedicated third-party application, because changing the resolution of the desktop is absolutely criminal and also results in blurry scaling artifacts rather than the perfect integer scaling that it should be.

poglet 3y ago
What application are you using?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- LoganDark 3y ago
  It's called "Lossless Scaling" and you can find it on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/ You have to buy it and then switch the branch to version 1.6, because the new UWP version doesn't work properly.
thaumasiotes 3y ago
4k to 1080p is a perfect integer scale. One pixel at 1920x1080 is a 2x2 pixel block at 3840x2160. Changing the resolution of the desktop indeed has hideous effects in Windows. If my external monitor loses power for half a second, all my windows get forcibly resized to fit within the limits of my laptop's built-in screen. It is inconceivable to me that someone might actually want this functionality. And yet somehow, if I close a window, unplug the external monitor, and reopen the window, it will open in the inaccessible virtual space where the external monitor used to be, and I have to use keyboard commands to move it onto the visible screen. I don't want either of those things to happen, but I'm prepared to believe that I have to live with one or the other. (I'd rather have the second problem than the first one.) Why are both of them happening?
- LoganDark 3y ago
  > 4k to 1080p is a perfect integer scale. One pixel at 1920x1080 is a 2x2 pixel block at 3840x2160. Exactly. It's one of the reasons why I mandate 4k and not 1440p, in addition to it also being a perfect 3x multiple of 720p, which is absolutely godlike for games like FTL: Faster Than Light.
redox99 3y ago
Most games these days support DLSS and FSR. You should never run games at 1080p output, but instead whatever internal resolution you can handle, upscaled to 4k output.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  I don't want that compromise on quality. Additionally, the quality of the DLSS/FSR integration itself varies by game, and I play plenty of non-AAA titles that either don't have the setting altogether, or commit grave sins such as upscaling GUI elements.
  - redox99 3y ago
    What compromise? A game with 1080p internal resolution upscaled to 4k with DLSS on a 4k monitor looks way better than 1080p native on a 1080p monitor.
    - LoganDark 3y ago
      If the game implements upscaling correctly. Even then, I'm not a big fan of using upscaling myself, I'm not sure why.
blitzar 3y ago
I like spending $1,500 on a graphics card so I can re-use my existing $4,000 4k monitor to play pong.
- LoganDark 3y ago
  My entire computer costed $999. The GPU is probably around $400 of that. The 4k monitor I'm using costed $70. It's a cheap aluminum enclosure around a laptop panel.