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I think Apple does a good job here. My iPhone 6S still getting updates last month. I think it’s around 8 years old now.

Spivak 3y ago
One of my friends just got the battery replaced on her 1st gen iPhone SE and she's not giving it up until it dies of natural causes.
- barbs 3y ago
  Typing this on my iPhone SE, I replaced the battery myself a couple of years ago and am planning to do it again soon. It's only got iOS 15 but it's still getting security updates and works well.
  - captn3m0 3y ago
    The first Gen SE? Mine was getting too slow with iOS15 with barely 5 usable tabs in Firefox before app-switching would kill them. Plus, too many apps gave up on designing for small screens so I had lots of unreachable buttons and input boxes. I booted it yesterday, and it still has that issue where you can’t type a alphanumeric passcode on boot, because the keyboard doesn’t show up. The workaround is to click on emergency, then get back to the passcode screen.
    - barbs 3y ago
      I suspect my general usage might be a bit more basic than yours - my main apps are WhatsApp, FB Messenger, Safari, Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Spotify, YouTube and Netflix.
- tim333 3y ago
  I'm also on a 1st gen SE and it's a great phone but the end is probably near. OS upgrades stopped last year, I've had one dumb app I can't use because it needs iOS 16+. Also I fancy having eSIM which the phone doesn't have. I think maybe the 13 mini next?
chinabot 3y ago
the 6 has stopped getting updates, I had to update it last year
- benatkin 3y ago
  Yeah the 6 is the previous generation, this old versioning style was confusing I don’t think the comment you’re replying to suggests never stopping updates. I don’t suggest that either. Otherwise people will think software is properly patched when it isn’t and application developers will not be able to modernize their stacks. I think currently 5 years is acceptable but we should strive for more. Some of these Android ones are BS.
- rinrab 3y ago
  I think it will get updates with bug fixes and security updates.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  iOS 12.5.7 for the iPhone 6 came out this year as a security update.
justsomehnguy 3y ago
There is only so many iPhone models there. There are hundreds of thousands of Androids there, on a different platforms, with different chipsets, CPUs and radio. Sure, Google can travel back in time and re-do it's the proper way.
- unilynx 3y ago
  Or fix it over the three next years, if that is the average lifespan.
- not_your_vase 3y ago
  There was a short period of time when I thought that they finally solved this problem, when they deferred the browser updates to Google Play instead of being part of the whole OS update. I really thought that they would move everything there slowly over a year or two, and it would stop being a shitshow... but I realized fairly quick how wrong I was.
  - wolpoli 3y ago
    Yes, and then Google hyped up project treble but that apparently didn't mean we will get more updates
  - pharmakom 3y ago
    That was bout control. They reduced the usefulness of Android Open Source Project without Google Play Services.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  And yet Wintel figured this out almost 30 years ago.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    Do you understand what the most ARM systems still doesn't have anything resembling ACPI? Yes, Wintel figured this out, after the legacy of IBM PC.
k310 3y ago
My iPhone8 just got an ios 16.7.1 update but ios 17 is not supported. Hoping it lasts even longer.

One of my friends just got the battery replaced on her 1st gen iPhone SE and she's not giving it up until it dies of natural causes.

barbs 3y ago
Typing this on my iPhone SE, I replaced the battery myself a couple of years ago and am planning to do it again soon. It's only got iOS 15 but it's still getting security updates and works well.
- captn3m0 3y ago
  The first Gen SE? Mine was getting too slow with iOS15 with barely 5 usable tabs in Firefox before app-switching would kill them. Plus, too many apps gave up on designing for small screens so I had lots of unreachable buttons and input boxes. I booted it yesterday, and it still has that issue where you can’t type a alphanumeric passcode on boot, because the keyboard doesn’t show up. The workaround is to click on emergency, then get back to the passcode screen.
  - barbs 3y ago
    I suspect my general usage might be a bit more basic than yours - my main apps are WhatsApp, FB Messenger, Safari, Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Spotify, YouTube and Netflix.
tim333 3y ago
I'm also on a 1st gen SE and it's a great phone but the end is probably near. OS upgrades stopped last year, I've had one dumb app I can't use because it needs iOS 16+. Also I fancy having eSIM which the phone doesn't have. I think maybe the 13 mini next?

chinabot 3y ago

the 6 has stopped getting updates, I had to update it last year

benatkin 3y ago
Yeah the 6 is the previous generation, this old versioning style was confusing I don’t think the comment you’re replying to suggests never stopping updates. I don’t suggest that either. Otherwise people will think software is properly patched when it isn’t and application developers will not be able to modernize their stacks. I think currently 5 years is acceptable but we should strive for more. Some of these Android ones are BS.
rinrab 3y ago
I think it will get updates with bug fixes and security updates.
scarface_74 3y ago
iOS 12.5.7 for the iPhone 6 came out this year as a security update.

justsomehnguy 3y ago

There is only so many iPhone models there. There are hundreds of thousands of Androids there, on a different platforms, with different chipsets, CPUs and radio. Sure, Google can travel back in time and re-do it's the proper way.

unilynx 3y ago
Or fix it over the three next years, if that is the average lifespan.
not_your_vase 3y ago
There was a short period of time when I thought that they finally solved this problem, when they deferred the browser updates to Google Play instead of being part of the whole OS update. I really thought that they would move everything there slowly over a year or two, and it would stop being a shitshow... but I realized fairly quick how wrong I was.
- wolpoli 3y ago
  Yes, and then Google hyped up project treble but that apparently didn't mean we will get more updates
- pharmakom 3y ago
  That was bout control. They reduced the usefulness of Android Open Source Project without Google Play Services.
scarface_74 3y ago
And yet Wintel figured this out almost 30 years ago.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  Do you understand what the most ARM systems still doesn't have anything resembling ACPI? Yes, Wintel figured this out, after the legacy of IBM PC.

k310 3y ago

My iPhone8 just got an ios 16.7.1 update but ios 17 is not supported. Hoping it lasts even longer.