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So basically you're saying you're a pushover, and other people should also be obligated to just shut up and accept any abuse that comes from their employers? Be

So basically you're saying you're a pushover, and other people should also be obligated to just shut up and accept any abuse that comes from their employers? Because...?

callalex 3y ago
Because someday jongjong is totally going to be a billionaire, it just hasn’t happened quite yet, but when it does the law must be there to protect them.
- Loggias 3y ago
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- charcircuit 3y ago
  You don't have to be a billionaire to benefit from being able control who you employ.
  - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
    So don't employ people you don't like, thats what hiring process is for. This is about treating people with decency after you employed them. Apparently some people have a problem with that. You know where this leads, having no Accountability and no decency? Casting couch, sexual favours, corruption.
- jongjong 3y ago
  Thanks, that's generous thinking. If I ever become a billionaire, I wouldn't concern myself with pinching pennies and would focus on creating incentives and rewards that support value creation. I highly doubt I would ever need more than $10 to 15 million in wealth for myself. I feel greedy for even suggesting that I may keep so much. I would probably find a way to share anything above 15m through some incentive structure.
jongjong 3y ago
No, you should change companies or start your own. I agree though that the current system makes it artificially difficult and that really needs to change. It's because of monetary policy creating uneven playing fields that favor monopolies and centralization. Companies have an unfair advantage and leverage over employees but it's not hampered by such regulations as discussed here. These regulations just harm competent people for the benefit of incompetent people. Would a competent person need such laws when they have valuable skills?
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  > These regulations just harm competent people You mean like when US goverment charged the 4 largest tech companies with conspiracy to suppress wages? Those regulations?
  - jongjong 3y ago
    I think that ought to be illegal and IMO, the punishment should be even higher. But it's a different matter from the right to fire anyone for any reason. Given a fair environment, being fired can be an advantage to the employee. Imagine working for a company for 10 years where the employer secretly hates your guts due to personal reasons and you are never promoted, never given a raise, etc... but they didn't fire you because they couldn't find a good reason and were concerned about legal repercussions. Isn't that horrible that you wasted 10 years and could have been earning 2x more at a different company?

So basically you're saying you're a pushover, and other people should also be obligated to just shut up and accept any abuse that comes from their employers? Because...?

callalex 3y ago

Because someday jongjong is totally going to be a billionaire, it just hasn’t happened quite yet, but when it does the law must be there to protect them.

Loggias 3y ago
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charcircuit 3y ago
You don't have to be a billionaire to benefit from being able control who you employ.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  So don't employ people you don't like, thats what hiring process is for. This is about treating people with decency after you employed them. Apparently some people have a problem with that. You know where this leads, having no Accountability and no decency? Casting couch, sexual favours, corruption.
jongjong 3y ago
Thanks, that's generous thinking. If I ever become a billionaire, I wouldn't concern myself with pinching pennies and would focus on creating incentives and rewards that support value creation. I highly doubt I would ever need more than $10 to 15 million in wealth for myself. I feel greedy for even suggesting that I may keep so much. I would probably find a way to share anything above 15m through some incentive structure.

jongjong 3y ago

No, you should change companies or start your own. I agree though that the current system makes it artificially difficult and that really needs to change. It's because of monetary policy creating uneven playing fields that favor monopolies and centralization. Companies have an unfair advantage and leverage over employees but it's not hampered by such regulations as discussed here. These regulations just harm competent people for the benefit of incompetent people. Would a competent person need such laws when they have valuable skills?

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> These regulations just harm competent people You mean like when US goverment charged the 4 largest tech companies with conspiracy to suppress wages? Those regulations?
- jongjong 3y ago
  I think that ought to be illegal and IMO, the punishment should be even higher. But it's a different matter from the right to fire anyone for any reason. Given a fair environment, being fired can be an advantage to the employee. Imagine working for a company for 10 years where the employer secretly hates your guts due to personal reasons and you are never promoted, never given a raise, etc... but they didn't fire you because they couldn't find a good reason and were concerned about legal repercussions. Isn't that horrible that you wasted 10 years and could have been earning 2x more at a different company?