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I don't think this is surprising. The upgrade cycle for computers is 40 months. With the move to work from home, or people just spending more time at home dur

I don't think this is surprising. The upgrade cycle for computers is 40 months. With the move to work from home, or people just spending more time at home during covid, many people upgraded with a 15% increase in 2021 and 16% in 2022. Everyone felt flush with cash, and wanted something to spend it on. Now people don't feel rich. I've been waiting to buy a new computer until things get REALLY cheap, and I don't even think we're there yet. Maybe another quarter or 2. On top of that, what are people upgrading for? I'm avoiding Windows 11, and based on the messages I'm not getting in Windows 10, I'm moving to Linux. I also have a mac, but I don't love the OS, and the pricing for a new mac with the memory I need/want just doesn't make sense. My Mom can easily get buy on an 8 year old machine, as long as she's getting security updates. Everything is in the cloud, she has no reason to buy something new. My nieces and nephews (surprisingly) have chrome books. But they could also easily get buy on an iPad.

slowmovintarget 3y ago
40 months! Silly me, I've been on the ten year plan. I just refreshed my hardware as my old gaming rig (top of the line at the time) couldn't run LLM engines or diffusers without overloading the power supply and shutting down in the middle of a run. I switched to Linux in the process (no Win 11 for me). The only reason for not going Mac desktop is that Nvidia is still the king of the hill for ML workloads.
- ksec 3y ago
  >40 months! Silly me, I've been on the ten year plan. The OP missed out a word, it should be the average upgrade cycle for PC ( or specifically Laptops ) is about 40 months. But if you look at Data closely, lots of company buy a new laptop for their employees every 24 months. Some even gets 12 months as some sort of perks. If you ignores these outliner you will see average drops to 50 to 60 months.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    From my experience, guarantee happens to be three years, but they only get actually replaced when they brake, battery dies, or are no longer able to fulfil project requirements, which means a five year turnover on average. Maybe FAANG are a bit more open with their wallets.
    - slowmovintarget 3y ago
      Yes, at work, it's this. three to five years... stretch if you can. But if the machine is struggling to compile, it isn't worth wasting the time of my engineers on a problem new hardware can fix. I can usually trust my people to spend some time yak-shaving before they'll ask, so when they ask I take it seriously. But for personal, non-work equipment... different story. I'll use it until I can't anymore.
gloryjulio 3y ago
M1 is just too good. And m2 is way too expensive without much benefit unless you are one of the top end users. Apple even raised price for m2. My mba still works great and the battery isn't even that bad yet

slowmovintarget 3y ago

40 months! Silly me, I've been on the ten year plan. I just refreshed my hardware as my old gaming rig (top of the line at the time) couldn't run LLM engines or diffusers without overloading the power supply and shutting down in the middle of a run. I switched to Linux in the process (no Win 11 for me). The only reason for not going Mac desktop is that Nvidia is still the king of the hill for ML workloads.

ksec 3y ago
>40 months! Silly me, I've been on the ten year plan. The OP missed out a word, it should be the average upgrade cycle for PC ( or specifically Laptops ) is about 40 months. But if you look at Data closely, lots of company buy a new laptop for their employees every 24 months. Some even gets 12 months as some sort of perks. If you ignores these outliner you will see average drops to 50 to 60 months.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  From my experience, guarantee happens to be three years, but they only get actually replaced when they brake, battery dies, or are no longer able to fulfil project requirements, which means a five year turnover on average. Maybe FAANG are a bit more open with their wallets.
  - slowmovintarget 3y ago
    Yes, at work, it's this. three to five years... stretch if you can. But if the machine is struggling to compile, it isn't worth wasting the time of my engineers on a problem new hardware can fix. I can usually trust my people to spend some time yak-shaving before they'll ask, so when they ask I take it seriously. But for personal, non-work equipment... different story. I'll use it until I can't anymore.

gloryjulio 3y ago

M1 is just too good. And m2 is way too expensive without much benefit unless you are one of the top end users. Apple even raised price for m2. My mba still works great and the battery isn't even that bad yet