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I’ve given up on using iCloud Drive, despite having Apple everything, because I find the sync so unreliable and undebuggable. I never had any issues like this w

I’ve given up on using iCloud Drive, despite having Apple everything, because I find the sync so unreliable and undebuggable. I never had any issues like this with OneDrive or Dropbox.

kvmet 3y ago
Really? I have had horrible issues on OneDrive if my connection is bad. Including extremely frustrating things like reverting files to older versions and completely deleting all of my local work. Admittedly, that was ~3 years ago before I switched to GDrive.
crazygringo 3y ago
Same. Things just... don't sync. Not after a minute, not after an hour. But then 2 days later the files pop up. And then on Tuesday it all works instantaneously and perfectly. But then Wednesday it stops entirely again. It honestly baffles me, what possible architecture choice could explain its erratic behavior. And it baffles me just as much that they've never fixed it. Whereas Dropbox and Google Drive for Desktop have always worked great.
- gumby 3y ago
  I found OneDrive would crash a lot amd couldn’t deal with file names that weren’t valid windows file names. The google drive for Mac crashes a lot, and no matter how I adjust the settings often refuses to download the full remote system unless I click on the cloud icon next to the file name. They really want you to use a web browser, which I don’t like to do (prefer native apps, thanks). Dropbox seems to have gotten it right, it seems. I guess that’s why they’re still in business even though their business is built around a feature, not otherwise a product.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    > Dropbox seems to have gotten it right, it seems. I guess that’s why they’re still in business even though their business is built around a feature, not otherwise a product. That criticism never made sense to me, especially from Steve Jobs, as a moderate sized team putting their all into an excellent product will be competitive against a larger team putting in a half-hearted effort. As he himself demonstrated.
    - gumby 3y ago
      I don’t know about Steve Jobs and iCloud, but Dropbox is the kind of thing that can become table stakes, requiring a large surface of interface (esp relative to its core functionality) vs someone else fitting it into their existing infrastructure (e.g. authentication and other tools). That’s basically the definition of a feature. They only survive at all bc so many competitive alternatives can’t be bothered to invest in doing a good job.
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        Like I said a moderate sized team putting their all, going above and beyond, etc..., however you want to phrase it, will be competitive even against a much bigger company putting in a half-hearted effort. Of course if they slip and only start putting in a 1.5x effort or something then they won't be competitive.
  - JoBrad 3y ago
    Excel pivot tables won’t work if the file banner is invalid in Windows, too. This happens a lot for me when I open an Excel attachment, because macOS will put brackets in the file name.

I’ve given up on using iCloud Drive, despite having Apple everything, because I find the sync so unreliable and undebuggable. I never had any issues like this with OneDrive or Dropbox.

kvmet 3y ago

Really? I have had horrible issues on OneDrive if my connection is bad. Including extremely frustrating things like reverting files to older versions and completely deleting all of my local work. Admittedly, that was ~3 years ago before I switched to GDrive.

crazygringo 3y ago

Same. Things just... don't sync. Not after a minute, not after an hour. But then 2 days later the files pop up. And then on Tuesday it all works instantaneously and perfectly. But then Wednesday it stops entirely again. It honestly baffles me, what possible architecture choice could explain its erratic behavior. And it baffles me just as much that they've never fixed it. Whereas Dropbox and Google Drive for Desktop have always worked great.

gumby 3y ago
I found OneDrive would crash a lot amd couldn’t deal with file names that weren’t valid windows file names. The google drive for Mac crashes a lot, and no matter how I adjust the settings often refuses to download the full remote system unless I click on the cloud icon next to the file name. They really want you to use a web browser, which I don’t like to do (prefer native apps, thanks). Dropbox seems to have gotten it right, it seems. I guess that’s why they’re still in business even though their business is built around a feature, not otherwise a product.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  > Dropbox seems to have gotten it right, it seems. I guess that’s why they’re still in business even though their business is built around a feature, not otherwise a product. That criticism never made sense to me, especially from Steve Jobs, as a moderate sized team putting their all into an excellent product will be competitive against a larger team putting in a half-hearted effort. As he himself demonstrated.
  - gumby 3y ago
    I don’t know about Steve Jobs and iCloud, but Dropbox is the kind of thing that can become table stakes, requiring a large surface of interface (esp relative to its core functionality) vs someone else fitting it into their existing infrastructure (e.g. authentication and other tools). That’s basically the definition of a feature. They only survive at all bc so many competitive alternatives can’t be bothered to invest in doing a good job.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      Like I said a moderate sized team putting their all, going above and beyond, etc..., however you want to phrase it, will be competitive even against a much bigger company putting in a half-hearted effort. Of course if they slip and only start putting in a 1.5x effort or something then they won't be competitive.
- JoBrad 3y ago
  Excel pivot tables won’t work if the file banner is invalid in Windows, too. This happens a lot for me when I open an Excel attachment, because macOS will put brackets in the file name.