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The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement, and Apple doesn’t have any other huge changes in the pipeline anytime soon

The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement, and Apple doesn’t have any other huge changes in the pipeline anytime soon for its laptops. Nor do I think a chipset change will have a significant impact on the average users experience. It’s either some sort of decline in high end computing generally or with Apple specifically. As to why Apple specifically would decline, they have become quite a bit less competitive in terms of value for money compared to 3 years ago.

fh9302 3y ago
The M3 will likely be based on the A17, while the M2 was based on the A15. That will be a more significant jump compared to M1 to M2.
xw3098 3y ago
> The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement Unless you care about Mac GPU performance. "Overall, Apple's claim of up to 20% better performance seems to be right on the money, as is normally the case with these things." https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-15/the-iphone-15-pros-a17-pro-chip-blows-the-a16-bionic-away-in-this-gpu-benchmark https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-15/the-iphone-15-pros-a1...
seec 3y ago
I agree. As things are it seems doubtful that Apple will be able to increase performance very significantly in the coming years unless they make some drastic change that would require a whole lot of new engineering. Now they have chips that are low power but also not very competitive at any price point so it's not particularly exciting (batteries are cheap...). On the higher end chips the power consumption advantage isn't as big of a deal as they make it out to be and doesn't matter that much in real world applications (if you run an M2 Max at full power, you gonna get less than 2h of battery life anyway). But they lose hard particularly in 3D (GPU) applications. The hope with M3 is that they at least figure out how to make GPU somewhat competitive with similarly priced offerings from NVDIA. As is you can buy a mid range windows laptop and get better perf it doesn't look good...
ksec 3y ago
>The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement, Um... It is far more likely M3 will be based on A18 rather than A17.

fh9302 3y ago

The M3 will likely be based on the A17, while the M2 was based on the A15. That will be a more significant jump compared to M1 to M2.

xw3098 3y ago

> The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement Unless you care about Mac GPU performance. "Overall, Apple's claim of up to 20% better performance seems to be right on the money, as is normally the case with these things." https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-15/the-iphone-15-pros-a17-pro-chip-blows-the-a16-bionic-away-in-this-gpu-benchmark https://www.imore.com/iphone/iphone-15/the-iphone-15-pros-a1...

seec 3y ago

I agree. As things are it seems doubtful that Apple will be able to increase performance very significantly in the coming years unless they make some drastic change that would require a whole lot of new engineering. Now they have chips that are low power but also not very competitive at any price point so it's not particularly exciting (batteries are cheap...). On the higher end chips the power consumption advantage isn't as big of a deal as they make it out to be and doesn't matter that much in real world applications (if you run an M2 Max at full power, you gonna get less than 2h of battery life anyway). But they lose hard particularly in 3D (GPU) applications. The hope with M3 is that they at least figure out how to make GPU somewhat competitive with similarly priced offerings from NVDIA. As is you can buy a mid range windows laptop and get better perf it doesn't look good...

ksec 3y ago

>The iPhone 15 to me categorically proves m3 will be a pretty incremental improvement, Um... It is far more likely M3 will be based on A18 rather than A17.