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You say "just citing the theory", as if theory is some dirty concept. Marx's critique of capitalism, and how it breaks is well established economic theory. And

by pierat 3y ago

You say "just citing the theory", as if theory is some dirty concept. Marx's critique of capitalism, and how it breaks is well established economic theory. And it explains the labor market extremely well, even with employment-but-not-really "gig economy" perfectly. And, it also explains why people feel that they have bullshit jobs... if you're aware of the 4 types of capitalist worker alienation. With capitalist alienation enables the exploitation since the alienation makes you think your work doesnt matter. And with information asymmetry that occurs in the 4 alienations, the worker is unequipped to understand their true value. So, exploitation occurs naturally from that.

robertlagrant 3y ago
> You say "just citing the theory", as if theory is some dirty concept. No I don't. This basic level of comprehension shouldn't be out of reach. I'm saying you can cite a theory, but that doesn't mean it's true, and certainly doesn't account for reality. E.g. managers are not some hive mind who act in concert. They're individuals with their own motivations and personalities. Assuming that they withold information from their employees (notwithstanding managers are also employees, but this again would be too close to reality for this theory) rather than they just also don't know the information, or the information is speculative, and blaming a worker's lack of knowledge of that information on them is to infantilise employees. Employees are not like children, thinking parents have all the answers and all the money, and just refuse to promise or buy things out of spite. They are grown ups who have chosen a certain path, and who, if they ever choose to become managers, will realise that they knew quite a lot already. > And, it also explains why people feel that they have bullshit jobs... if you're aware of the 4 types of capitalist worker alienation. Scientology explains societal problems through literal aliens. That doesn't mean the explanation is good or useful.

by pierat 3y ago

robertlagrant 3y ago

> You say "just citing the theory", as if theory is some dirty concept. No I don't. This basic level of comprehension shouldn't be out of reach. I'm saying you can cite a theory, but that doesn't mean it's true, and certainly doesn't account for reality. E.g. managers are not some hive mind who act in concert. They're individuals with their own motivations and personalities. Assuming that they withold information from their employees (notwithstanding managers are also employees, but this again would be too close to reality for this theory) rather than they just also don't know the information, or the information is speculative, and blaming a worker's lack of knowledge of that information on them is to infantilise employees. Employees are not like children, thinking parents have all the answers and all the money, and just refuse to promise or buy things out of spite. They are grown ups who have chosen a certain path, and who, if they ever choose to become managers, will realise that they knew quite a lot already. > And, it also explains why people feel that they have bullshit jobs... if you're aware of the 4 types of capitalist worker alienation. Scientology explains societal problems through literal aliens. That doesn't mean the explanation is good or useful.