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> At Google Cloud, we put your interests first. Companies are way too comfortable boldly lying to their customers. If they really put my interests first, they'

> At Google Cloud, we put your interests first. Companies are way too comfortable boldly lying to their customers. If they really put my interests first, they'd give me their services for free.

ShamelessC 3y ago
I think this is the single most shallow, bad faith criticism I’ve ever seen.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  It's impossible to have any deep critique of a shallow subject. The bad faith is on Google's part-- they use vague slogans that signal generosity and kindness, while their actions are exploitative and borrow from the ethics and TTPs of malware authors. Last time, it was "don't be evil." Now, they're putting users first. How kind of them! Anyone brave enough to adopt "don't be evil" as a motto deserves scrutiny when they find need to change it. It's a warrant canary whose absence speaks for itself. "Ok, prove it" is a challenge not enough of today's conspicuous bullshitters are confronted with.
- calibas 3y ago
  Oh please, you really think Google puts my interests first? People have gotten so used to companies spouting empty bullshit that it's become normal and not even looked at critically.
drusepth 3y ago
Is that true? If they gave you their services for free, there'd be a limited amount of time until they could no longer give away those services at all (e.g. they run out of money). You can still technically put your own financial gains "first" if they're a necessity to being in a position to put someone else first longer-term. It's the same reason you give what you can to charity, not just give 100% of your cash every time you have any.
xmprt 3y ago
In your hypothetical where a company gives your their services for free, the company runs out of money, goes out of business, and all of a sudden the services that you were relying on are no longer available. That doesn't seem in anyone's interest. Giving away services for free doesn't seem in the interest of users. In fact we can see first hand how Google search and other Google products have gotten worse because they give them away for free and as a result have to make money by selling their customers eyeballs to advertisers.
- calibas 3y ago
  Indeed, they'd fail if they really put their customer's interests first. That's what makes their statement an obvious lie.

> At Google Cloud, we put your interests first. Companies are way too comfortable boldly lying to their customers. If they really put my interests first, they'd give me their services for free.

ShamelessC 3y ago

I think this is the single most shallow, bad faith criticism I’ve ever seen.

jstarfish 3y ago
It's impossible to have any deep critique of a shallow subject. The bad faith is on Google's part-- they use vague slogans that signal generosity and kindness, while their actions are exploitative and borrow from the ethics and TTPs of malware authors. Last time, it was "don't be evil." Now, they're putting users first. How kind of them! Anyone brave enough to adopt "don't be evil" as a motto deserves scrutiny when they find need to change it. It's a warrant canary whose absence speaks for itself. "Ok, prove it" is a challenge not enough of today's conspicuous bullshitters are confronted with.
calibas 3y ago
Oh please, you really think Google puts my interests first? People have gotten so used to companies spouting empty bullshit that it's become normal and not even looked at critically.

drusepth 3y ago

Is that true? If they gave you their services for free, there'd be a limited amount of time until they could no longer give away those services at all (e.g. they run out of money). You can still technically put your own financial gains "first" if they're a necessity to being in a position to put someone else first longer-term. It's the same reason you give what you can to charity, not just give 100% of your cash every time you have any.

xmprt 3y ago

In your hypothetical where a company gives your their services for free, the company runs out of money, goes out of business, and all of a sudden the services that you were relying on are no longer available. That doesn't seem in anyone's interest. Giving away services for free doesn't seem in the interest of users. In fact we can see first hand how Google search and other Google products have gotten worse because they give them away for free and as a result have to make money by selling their customers eyeballs to advertisers.

calibas 3y ago
Indeed, they'd fail if they really put their customer's interests first. That's what makes their statement an obvious lie.