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Until enshittification. And then they’ll be hollowed out.

Night_Thastus 3y ago
Very unlikely. Again, MS just wants the profits. If a studio is doing well, they don't want to touch it. They want a steady revenue stream. They'll only step in if the studio is floundering and their couple releases have been flops. Then they'll offer direction, and shut them down if they can't fix it. That's what we've seen from MS so far, and it makes the most sense from their perspective.
- malfist 3y ago
  > MS just wants the profits. Are you sure about that? MS required Starfield to be exclusive after purchasing Bethesda
  - Night_Thastus 3y ago
    Well of course. They're spending a lot of money, why wouldn't they make the titles of anything they acquire be Xbox/Windows exclusive? That increases their profits. More people buy Xboxes, more people are on their platform, etc. They have some contractual obligations that prevent them from doing it for everything, but they'll do it for anything they can. That's just business sense.
    - pword 3y ago
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    - Hamuko 3y ago
      >why wouldn't they make the titles of anything they acquire be Xbox/Windows exclusive? "[Microsoft] submits that Microsoft has strong incentives to continue making ZeniMax games available for rival consoles (and their related storefronts). [...] Therefore, according to [Microsoft], Microsoft would not have the incentive to cease or limit making ZeniMax games available for purchase on rival consoles." https://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases1/202124/m10001_438_3.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases1/202124/m1000...
      - Night_Thastus 3y ago
        There may be some edge cases, but frankly I view it as typical corporate BS. They were just making statements like that hoping that the deal would go through. Everything that they are legally able to, from now on, will most likely be MS exclusive.
dfxm12 3y ago
What does this mean in this context? Relying on microtransactions to hook whales? Releasing poor/rehashed products? Collecting huge amounts of personal data without permission to play a game that requires none of it? I think we're way past "until"...

Very unlikely. Again, MS just wants the profits. If a studio is doing well, they don't want to touch it. They want a steady revenue stream. They'll only step in if the studio is floundering and their couple releases have been flops. Then they'll offer direction, and shut them down if they can't fix it. That's what we've seen from MS so far, and it makes the most sense from their perspective.

malfist 3y ago
> MS just wants the profits. Are you sure about that? MS required Starfield to be exclusive after purchasing Bethesda
- Night_Thastus 3y ago
  Well of course. They're spending a lot of money, why wouldn't they make the titles of anything they acquire be Xbox/Windows exclusive? That increases their profits. More people buy Xboxes, more people are on their platform, etc. They have some contractual obligations that prevent them from doing it for everything, but they'll do it for anything they can. That's just business sense.
  - pword 3y ago
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  - Hamuko 3y ago
    >why wouldn't they make the titles of anything they acquire be Xbox/Windows exclusive? "[Microsoft] submits that Microsoft has strong incentives to continue making ZeniMax games available for rival consoles (and their related storefronts). [...] Therefore, according to [Microsoft], Microsoft would not have the incentive to cease or limit making ZeniMax games available for purchase on rival consoles." https://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases1/202124/m10001_438_3.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/competition/mergers/cases1/202124/m1000...
    - Night_Thastus 3y ago
      There may be some edge cases, but frankly I view it as typical corporate BS. They were just making statements like that hoping that the deal would go through. Everything that they are legally able to, from now on, will most likely be MS exclusive.

dfxm12 3y ago

What does this mean in this context? Relying on microtransactions to hook whales? Releasing poor/rehashed products? Collecting huge amounts of personal data without permission to play a game that requires none of it? I think we're way past "until"...