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People are focusing on ads and other annoyances. Don't get me wrong—those are far and away the most egregious. Get rid of them, though, and mobile web browsing

People are focusing on ads and other annoyances. Don't get me wrong—those are far and away the most egregious. Get rid of them, though, and mobile web browsing still sucks. Many sites offer only a stripped-down version compared to the desktop or simply render strangely. And iOS at least is so aggressive about saving memory, even on my 14 Pro, that tabs will be unloaded despite my not doing much, forcing a refresh.

hellotheretoday 3y ago
That last point is my main gripe. I’ve had many experiences where I’ve had a tab open on my phone editing text, change to another tab to refer to something for the text I’m editing, and change back to find the original tab had to be reloaded. Even changing between safari and apps. If the page/app isn’t set up to auto save drafts and the spot I’m working at its functionally useless to me on mobile now. Or I have to set up an awkward workflow where I regularly juggle between the two to ensure they both stay in memory which doesn’t always work. My phone is older, XS, so maybe that’s part of it
seec 3y ago
Yes because Apple is skimping on RAM in 1K$ phones. It's unreal that you can get much cheaper Android phones that have more memory than their entry level laptop. For a while there was marketing/excitement about the ability of iOS to compress RAM ; expect it cannot replace actually having the RAM to be used at any moment. Apple has been incredibly greedy and their user experience suffer tremendously. There really is no justification for shipping phones so expensive with so little RAM for so long besides ultra-greed. It makes the phones obsolete much earlier than they should be because while you can wait the work of a slower CPU if you can't fit your workload into RAM you are basically out of luck. If you had spent as much money on a flagship Android back then you would have gotten 4GB minimum with a Galaxy S9 but more likely 6-8GB with a S9+ or Note 9 that were the real price competitors of an iPhone X (still cheaper). So yeah iOS is aggressive in saving memory because it doesn't have much choice. Your iPhone 14 Pro has 6GB of RAM. This is 2GB less than a Galaxy S23 that cost almost half as much ; the Ultra version with 12GB of RAM still cost about as much. Even going with a 14 Pro Max would still only get you 6GB which is even worse of a joke considering the price. It's infuriating because considering how cheap RAM chips have become they only save a very small amount per phone but their faithfull users who paid the high price to get "the best" are thanked with these kind of real-world use case annoyances... To be honest I think it's kinda masochist to keep buying Apple products at the moment. I'm a first time iPhone user and I like iOS overall but the value proposition of even their cheapest product doesn't make sense anymore...

hellotheretoday 3y ago

That last point is my main gripe. I’ve had many experiences where I’ve had a tab open on my phone editing text, change to another tab to refer to something for the text I’m editing, and change back to find the original tab had to be reloaded. Even changing between safari and apps. If the page/app isn’t set up to auto save drafts and the spot I’m working at its functionally useless to me on mobile now. Or I have to set up an awkward workflow where I regularly juggle between the two to ensure they both stay in memory which doesn’t always work. My phone is older, XS, so maybe that’s part of it

seec 3y ago

Yes because Apple is skimping on RAM in 1K$ phones. It's unreal that you can get much cheaper Android phones that have more memory than their entry level laptop. For a while there was marketing/excitement about the ability of iOS to compress RAM ; expect it cannot replace actually having the RAM to be used at any moment. Apple has been incredibly greedy and their user experience suffer tremendously. There really is no justification for shipping phones so expensive with so little RAM for so long besides ultra-greed. It makes the phones obsolete much earlier than they should be because while you can wait the work of a slower CPU if you can't fit your workload into RAM you are basically out of luck. If you had spent as much money on a flagship Android back then you would have gotten 4GB minimum with a Galaxy S9 but more likely 6-8GB with a S9+ or Note 9 that were the real price competitors of an iPhone X (still cheaper). So yeah iOS is aggressive in saving memory because it doesn't have much choice. Your iPhone 14 Pro has 6GB of RAM. This is 2GB less than a Galaxy S23 that cost almost half as much ; the Ultra version with 12GB of RAM still cost about as much. Even going with a 14 Pro Max would still only get you 6GB which is even worse of a joke considering the price. It's infuriating because considering how cheap RAM chips have become they only save a very small amount per phone but their faithfull users who paid the high price to get "the best" are thanked with these kind of real-world use case annoyances... To be honest I think it's kinda masochist to keep buying Apple products at the moment. I'm a first time iPhone user and I like iOS overall but the value proposition of even their cheapest product doesn't make sense anymore...