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Initially, meaning years ago, I saw Flexports strategy as positioning themselves as an acquisition target for a legacy forwarder. We'll see if they can successf

by hef19898 3y ago

Initially, meaning years ago, I saw Flexports strategy as positioning themselves as an acquisition target for a legacy forwarder. We'll see if they can successfully pivot to being a modern, lean logistics conoany able to stand on its own feet or not. Wouod be a shame if not, but then most investors, at least it seems so from the outside, have been investing based on the assumption of Flexport being a "tech" company. If those investors don't go along with a more cobservative, logistics focused path, well, Flexport might be in deep trouble.

jacquesm 3y ago
This is a fairly common occurrence, a company taking on investment not realizing that this is giving them both an opportunity and a massive change in direction as well as reduced options. Because to keep those investors happy a lot of those 'lean' landing strategies are no longer on the table, it's a bit like a junkie getting a first shot of a new and dangerous drug. The drug isn't free but you don't quite realize that at that moment in time. But once your initial supply runs low and you need more it turns out that there was a price to pay after all. CEO's believing that investors and company/founder goals are aligned are in for a very rude awakening except in the 3% or so cases where it all works out. For the rest of them that initial boost can cause spending and a company profile well in excess of what is sustainable and the step down to a sustainable level may well kill the company. That's sad, but what's even more sad is that a company in the same space that was run in a responsible way without playing the VC game may well end up being outcompeted before the VC money runs out in their funded competitor.
- hef19898 3y ago
  The main reason I bootstrapped my, now defunct, attempted start-up. I didn't want a boss, so why would I take on something even worse, an investor? I wanted to be able to settle for a profitable boutique kind of thing, only a small number of investors would be fine with that and I had neither money nor time in finding those. You nailed it with your last sentence, VC nacked companies can simply out spend competitors, upsetting markets by virtue of having, or rather having had, endless money. And then some still go bust. And there is a complete generation of people thinking that is just normal, a good thing even, and see funding as a success for a company. Hopefully that changes now, but we'll see I guess.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    I do tech DD and get to see the other side of the table as well, which can be pretty interesting. Some VCs are cautious and spend wisely, others are reckless and will throw money away in the hope of a jackpot. I've seen business cases that were so broken they essentially amounted to VC subsidized re-sale of luxury goods and yet nobody thought twice about it. I think I understand the rationale behind about the 50% or so of the deals that I see. But - and this is where it gets really interesting - I've been wrong on a low number of occasions too (from the investors perspective, they made out like bandits) and there is a pattern here: VCs don't necessarily need for the company to work out long term, they just need for it to work out until they sell their shares. This is known as the 'bigger fool' theory and you have to wonder how many of the 50% of the deals remaining falls into that category. Finally: some VCs have a model that drives them to do this, they get paid over 'funds under management', and whether or not that eventually works out or not doesn't matter all that much, they get paid in the meantime. It will ultimately affect their ability to launch new funds but by then they usually have three funds in flight due to the delay between launching the first fund and the problems in the investments catching up with them, companies with money to burn can take a long time to fail.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      I always thought that finding the "bigger fool" is annactual VC strategy, simply because it explains so much! YC play this really well, don't they? Getting in very early, having a lot of clout, making it easy for their portfolio companies to find invetstors, spreading their bets far and wide. Coming back to Softbank, they seem to be one of those "even bigger fools", short of a SPAC / ICO, don't they? All in all, I realized I am quite happy doing a specialized job at big corp, not having to worry (I'm still interested, but is doesn't directly affect me anymore) about those things. Edit: Always a pleasure running into discussions with you!
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        I think the 'bigger fool' is more of a 'plan-B' than a main strategy. And it only works so often. Edit: likewise.

jacquesm 3y ago

This is a fairly common occurrence, a company taking on investment not realizing that this is giving them both an opportunity and a massive change in direction as well as reduced options. Because to keep those investors happy a lot of those 'lean' landing strategies are no longer on the table, it's a bit like a junkie getting a first shot of a new and dangerous drug. The drug isn't free but you don't quite realize that at that moment in time. But once your initial supply runs low and you need more it turns out that there was a price to pay after all. CEO's believing that investors and company/founder goals are aligned are in for a very rude awakening except in the 3% or so cases where it all works out. For the rest of them that initial boost can cause spending and a company profile well in excess of what is sustainable and the step down to a sustainable level may well kill the company. That's sad, but what's even more sad is that a company in the same space that was run in a responsible way without playing the VC game may well end up being outcompeted before the VC money runs out in their funded competitor.

hef19898 3y ago
The main reason I bootstrapped my, now defunct, attempted start-up. I didn't want a boss, so why would I take on something even worse, an investor? I wanted to be able to settle for a profitable boutique kind of thing, only a small number of investors would be fine with that and I had neither money nor time in finding those. You nailed it with your last sentence, VC nacked companies can simply out spend competitors, upsetting markets by virtue of having, or rather having had, endless money. And then some still go bust. And there is a complete generation of people thinking that is just normal, a good thing even, and see funding as a success for a company. Hopefully that changes now, but we'll see I guess.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  I do tech DD and get to see the other side of the table as well, which can be pretty interesting. Some VCs are cautious and spend wisely, others are reckless and will throw money away in the hope of a jackpot. I've seen business cases that were so broken they essentially amounted to VC subsidized re-sale of luxury goods and yet nobody thought twice about it. I think I understand the rationale behind about the 50% or so of the deals that I see. But - and this is where it gets really interesting - I've been wrong on a low number of occasions too (from the investors perspective, they made out like bandits) and there is a pattern here: VCs don't necessarily need for the company to work out long term, they just need for it to work out until they sell their shares. This is known as the 'bigger fool' theory and you have to wonder how many of the 50% of the deals remaining falls into that category. Finally: some VCs have a model that drives them to do this, they get paid over 'funds under management', and whether or not that eventually works out or not doesn't matter all that much, they get paid in the meantime. It will ultimately affect their ability to launch new funds but by then they usually have three funds in flight due to the delay between launching the first fund and the problems in the investments catching up with them, companies with money to burn can take a long time to fail.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    I always thought that finding the "bigger fool" is annactual VC strategy, simply because it explains so much! YC play this really well, don't they? Getting in very early, having a lot of clout, making it easy for their portfolio companies to find invetstors, spreading their bets far and wide. Coming back to Softbank, they seem to be one of those "even bigger fools", short of a SPAC / ICO, don't they? All in all, I realized I am quite happy doing a specialized job at big corp, not having to worry (I'm still interested, but is doesn't directly affect me anymore) about those things. Edit: Always a pleasure running into discussions with you!
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      I think the 'bigger fool' is more of a 'plan-B' than a main strategy. And it only works so often. Edit: likewise.