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Why not? Have you ever worked in an open kitchen? If you can't do your work for the public under public scrutiny, you shouldn't.
by johnnyworker 3y ago
Why not? Have you ever worked in an open kitchen?
If you can't do your work for the public under public scrutiny, you shouldn't.
- RandomLensman 3y agoHow is that in any way like working in an open kitchen? Anyway, interesting take that people working for the public should have no right to privacy in any way. Not sure you will find many people for such work, though.
- greggsy 3y agoThe people are still human beings. The process is still open to FOIA. It’s not perfect, but it’s the right solution.
- RandomLensman 3y agoSorry, what is the right solution? Total surveillance? The current approach? Some middling thing?
- greggsy 3y agoFOI
- master-lincoln 3y agoDoes mandating to record any work related communication really invade privacy of people working there?
- RandomLensman 3y agoAs it would be based on distrust, you'd have to record everything everywhere to avoid people not evading it. Even innocently, if, for example, two employees meet at home for dinner with their respective families and there is talk about work - needs to be recorded in that view. Or people car sharing on the way to work - recorded. Any work related communication is very very broad. And everything recorded open to the public, too.
- johnnyworker 3y agoHow is it any different? You don't have privacy in what you do at work when it comes to your employer. That's why it's called privacy, it relates to private and personal things. Your work for someone else is, by definition, not private. You don't get to push stuff into production and play coy about what you're pushing, do you? Why would that change when the employer is the public?
- RandomLensman 3y agoPutting aside finer points on privacy at work (depending on jurisdiction not so black and white), recording and making publicly available all work related communication goes way beyond usual surveillance at work places even in regulated communication settings. I have at least never worked in any place that would insist on recording any work related conversations with a co-worker during the morning commute (and to have that publicly available).
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- tedunangst 3y agoBut how do we prove the cooks aren't talking to each other outside the kitchen?
- johnnyworker 3y agoIf there's something wrong with the work they do in the kitchen, it doesn't matter how that came to be. If there is nothing wrong with it, it doesn't matter what else (other than something that would make them do something they shouldn't in the kitchen) they talk about outside of the kitchen. The solution can't possibly be not even knowing the difference between someone putting salt or toe nails into a pan -- but ensuring cooks don't talk to each other, so even though we have no clue what they're doing or should be doing, we magically know nothing bad is going on.
- tedunangst 3y agoHow do we know the cooks aren't holding out on a better recipe for Alfredo sauce that uses more salt? The recipe they're using seems adequate, but there's a better formula they could be using by adding salt, except they've all gotten together outside of work to conspire against us and say there's nothing wrong with the amount of salt they're using. Who knows who's paying them to say this? We need to follow them everywhere, see who they see, read what they write, audit their bank records. We need proof.