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What can people do instead of technology jobs, to make real productive work in the labour market?

by roschdal 3y ago

mugivarra69 3y ago
farm
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hirako2000 3y ago
Carpenter, plumber, electrician.
yellow_lead 3y ago
Sometimes I think about this. Things humans need: food, shelter, healthcare, energy, water. Working in one of these industries or improving access/efficiency of these things could be useful. But there are a lot of tech startups, i.e vertical farming that end up wasting capital because the economics don't make sense.
- badpun 3y ago
  Individually, most startups fail, so most of them are "wasting capital". As wtih any experimentation, they only make sense in the aggregate, where the total value for society delivered by successful experiments makes up for the cost of the failed ones.
  - meiraleal 3y ago
    > where the total value for society delivered by successful experiments makes up for the cost of the failed ones. I disagree. The successful experiments are negative to society just a few years after some startup wins in a niche. The world would be better off without Google, Facebook, Airbnb or Uber now that they already "changed" the market. Every tech dominance becomes society-negative over time.
lompad 3y ago
Anything related to taking care of old and/or disabled people.
hcks 3y ago
Yes yes I’m a plowing ox, put a collar on me and let me pull the heavy heavy weights for my masters.
hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
Nursing seems to have a shortage basically everywhere. Especially when you factor in the difference in physical strength between men and women. I personally wouldn't want any job where I didn't feel like I was personally helping push out the Pareto frontier of civilization, though. Everything else feels somehow short-sighted to me.
- saagarjha 3y ago
  On the contrary, not having people working on the structure needed to support this kind of effort seems to be more short-sighted.
  - hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
    Now that just doesn't ring true. Uncountable millennia passed where virtually everyone had to work on "the structure" and we didn't get anywhere interesting. The nurses of today would have been the shamanic healers of yesteraeon, but the vast difference in their abilities to actually deliver cure come entirely from the work of countless researchers and technologists.
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    - pseudalopex 3y ago
      The work of those researchers and technologists would have been impossible without the work of countless others who understood there were many ways to contribute.
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      None of which would be possible without mothers giving birth.
sjamaan 3y ago
Skilled manual labor like welding, for example
- hef19898 3y ago
  Not sure if that would work out.
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What can people do instead of technology jobs, to make real productive work in the labour market?

mugivarra69 3y ago

farm

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hirako2000 3y ago

Carpenter, plumber, electrician.

yellow_lead 3y ago

Sometimes I think about this. Things humans need: food, shelter, healthcare, energy, water. Working in one of these industries or improving access/efficiency of these things could be useful. But there are a lot of tech startups, i.e vertical farming that end up wasting capital because the economics don't make sense.

badpun 3y ago
Individually, most startups fail, so most of them are "wasting capital". As wtih any experimentation, they only make sense in the aggregate, where the total value for society delivered by successful experiments makes up for the cost of the failed ones.
- meiraleal 3y ago
  > where the total value for society delivered by successful experiments makes up for the cost of the failed ones. I disagree. The successful experiments are negative to society just a few years after some startup wins in a niche. The world would be better off without Google, Facebook, Airbnb or Uber now that they already "changed" the market. Every tech dominance becomes society-negative over time.

lompad 3y ago

Anything related to taking care of old and/or disabled people.

hcks 3y ago

Yes yes I’m a plowing ox, put a collar on me and let me pull the heavy heavy weights for my masters.

hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago

Nursing seems to have a shortage basically everywhere. Especially when you factor in the difference in physical strength between men and women. I personally wouldn't want any job where I didn't feel like I was personally helping push out the Pareto frontier of civilization, though. Everything else feels somehow short-sighted to me.

saagarjha 3y ago
On the contrary, not having people working on the structure needed to support this kind of effort seems to be more short-sighted.
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
  Now that just doesn't ring true. Uncountable millennia passed where virtually everyone had to work on "the structure" and we didn't get anywhere interesting. The nurses of today would have been the shamanic healers of yesteraeon, but the vast difference in their abilities to actually deliver cure come entirely from the work of countless researchers and technologists.
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  - pseudalopex 3y ago
    The work of those researchers and technologists would have been impossible without the work of countless others who understood there were many ways to contribute.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    None of which would be possible without mothers giving birth.

sjamaan 3y ago

Skilled manual labor like welding, for example

hef19898 3y ago
Not sure if that would work out.

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