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So 24x7 surveillance with anything gathered visible to anyone for any person working there on this stuff? Would anyone take such jobs?
by RandomLensman 3y ago
So 24x7 surveillance with anything gathered visible to anyone for any person working there on this stuff? Would anyone take such jobs?
- rho138 3y agoEvery US government office - at both the state and federal - levels has records keeping requirements. It’s the reason we can submit FOIA requests that return with data from the 30s.
- RandomLensman 3y agoIs every conversation in a rest room recorded and available? If you don't trust people creating cryptography standards you cannot really leave gaps, can you?
- hugh-avherald 3y agoMost officials communicate in ways that circumvent FOIA.
- LinuxBender 3y agoAdding to this FOIA doesn't guarantee useful answers. Having gone through the process whilst in the military I found a few loopholes. They can give a bloated answer with boxes and boxes of useless mostly unrelated information. They did this to me. They can also decline to answer and just say it's classified. They can also just decline to answer through stalling tactics. It served my purpose and that was to stall them from collecting DNA.
- willcipriano 3y agoHillary Clinton's email server is a famous example of attempting to avoid FOIA requests.
- ethbr1 3y agoFrom what I hear, it's also an example of how ineptly run the State Dept's IT systems were. Complex tasks like "set up a new computer" had months of lead time.
- willcipriano 3y agoThat wouldn't explain the intentional destruction of the blackberry phones and the deletion of thousands of emails.
- ethbr1 3y agoI'd say the haphazard destruction of Blackberries and iPads with hammers is pretty explicit evidence of how bad State Dept IT policy and execution was. Maybe I've worked in large corporations too much, but my first question when I see policy violations is not "How is this person conspiring?" but rather "What made following the official policy difficult? And how can we fix that?" Also, the State Dept seems like exactly the sort of place policy violations become culturally routine: non-technical experts, doing work that is arguably "more important", with IT seen as a cost rather than profit center. Perfect storm for policy-in-name-only.
- willcipriano 3y agoShe must've been unaware of her legal requirements under FOIA, that her husband signed into law, when she ordered the people's emails destroyed.
- ethbr1 3y agoOr, she didn't even think about records retention or device security, in the same way that most politicians/executives don't, assuming it was handled by someone. And it was in fact not, because there was no functioning policy enforcement at State.
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- johnnyworker 3y agoWhy not? Have you ever worked in an open kitchen? If you can't do your work for the public under public scrutiny, you shouldn't.
- RandomLensman 3y agoHow is that in any way like working in an open kitchen? Anyway, interesting take that people working for the public should have no right to privacy in any way. Not sure you will find many people for such work, though.
- greggsy 3y agoThe people are still human beings. The process is still open to FOIA. It’s not perfect, but it’s the right solution.
- RandomLensman 3y agoSorry, what is the right solution? Total surveillance? The current approach? Some middling thing?
- greggsy 3y agoFOI
- master-lincoln 3y agoDoes mandating to record any work related communication really invade privacy of people working there?
- RandomLensman 3y agoAs it would be based on distrust, you'd have to record everything everywhere to avoid people not evading it. Even innocently, if, for example, two employees meet at home for dinner with their respective families and there is talk about work - needs to be recorded in that view. Or people car sharing on the way to work - recorded. Any work related communication is very very broad. And everything recorded open to the public, too.