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Alt + click-and-drag solves that problem. Also I use i3 so my windows are tiled most of the time.

happymellon 3y ago
Having boarders that are bigger than 1px would solve that problem. Anything else is a work around poor UX. The fact that decades later it is still an issue is really disappointing.
- arcanemachiner 3y ago
  Agree to disagree I guess. I don't need a window border when I can drag/resize the window from anywhere in that window.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I do need window borders. A good interface would allow enough configuration that we both could have what we want.
    - happymellon 3y ago
      Agreed. I don't "agree to disagree", they offer a function that's unusable. It would be the equivalent of MacOS breaking the ability to double click on an app. But it's okay because you could use Spotlight. That's great and all, but if everything else allows double clicking and MacOS allowed double clicking but only on the absolute centre pixel, we would all consider it broken.
      - arcanemachiner 3y ago
        For me it's more like being disappointed that there's no way to start the engine in my car with a hand crank, instead of using the key.
        nickserv 3y ago
        Some older (pre 21st century ) motorcycles have a kick starter in addition to the electric one, and it does actually come in handy. On newer bikes if the starter fails or the battery dies you need to unceremoniously push the bike to speed, jump on and put it on first.
        CRConrad 3y ago
        > Some older (pre 21st century ) motorcycles have a kick starter in addition to the electric one, and it does actually come in handy. AFAIK quite a lot of 21st-century motorbikes still have that. (Some of them probably still only have that.)
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      > A good interface would allow enough configuration that we both could have what we want. Like Windows, from at least 3.1 (ca 1987?) to at least mid-life of Windows 7 (ca 2012-14?). The item under discussion, window border width, used to be settable from 0 up to... Pretty much all of your screen. (But from some update somewhere halfway through W7, it defaulted to at least one pixel however hard you tried to set it to zero.)
- fuzztester 3y ago
  >Having boarders that are bigger than 1px would solve that problem. In a world without borders, there would be no problem of Gates.

Having boarders that are bigger than 1px would solve that problem. Anything else is a work around poor UX. The fact that decades later it is still an issue is really disappointing.

arcanemachiner 3y ago
Agree to disagree I guess. I don't need a window border when I can drag/resize the window from anywhere in that window.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  I do need window borders. A good interface would allow enough configuration that we both could have what we want.
  - happymellon 3y ago
    Agreed. I don't "agree to disagree", they offer a function that's unusable. It would be the equivalent of MacOS breaking the ability to double click on an app. But it's okay because you could use Spotlight. That's great and all, but if everything else allows double clicking and MacOS allowed double clicking but only on the absolute centre pixel, we would all consider it broken.
    - arcanemachiner 3y ago
      For me it's more like being disappointed that there's no way to start the engine in my car with a hand crank, instead of using the key.
      - nickserv 3y ago
        Some older (pre 21st century ) motorcycles have a kick starter in addition to the electric one, and it does actually come in handy. On newer bikes if the starter fails or the battery dies you need to unceremoniously push the bike to speed, jump on and put it on first.
        CRConrad 3y ago
        > Some older (pre 21st century ) motorcycles have a kick starter in addition to the electric one, and it does actually come in handy. AFAIK quite a lot of 21st-century motorbikes still have that. (Some of them probably still only have that.)
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    > A good interface would allow enough configuration that we both could have what we want. Like Windows, from at least 3.1 (ca 1987?) to at least mid-life of Windows 7 (ca 2012-14?). The item under discussion, window border width, used to be settable from 0 up to... Pretty much all of your screen. (But from some update somewhere halfway through W7, it defaulted to at least one pixel however hard you tried to set it to zero.)
fuzztester 3y ago
>Having boarders that are bigger than 1px would solve that problem. In a world without borders, there would be no problem of Gates.