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It's not gone though. He has it back.
by pests 3y ago
It's not gone though. He has it back.
- Gigachad 3y agoHe has it back in a broken state. The person who took it rendered it inoperable before returning it. Even without activation lock there are numerous other ways if you are holding the laptop in your hand.
- ddingus 3y agoActually, it is not broken. It is working as designed. He simply does not have control of it.
- hunter2_ 3y agoTrue, but at the same time, it's not performing the function that was advertised upon which the purchasing decision was made. A reasonable person would believe that if it wasn't subject to physical harm (impact, water, heat, excessive voltage, etc.) then it would perform the advertised functions for a certain useful life. "Anyone who briefly possesses it can destroy that function without physical harm" wasn't advertised. IANAL but I think a judge would see it this way.
- nightfly 3y agoFor non-Apple laptops (ie, Dell) it's also possible to effectively brick the device by setting BIOS passwords that can't be undone without replacing a chip or similarly invasive means
- ddingus 3y agoOne could also say the user did high risk travel without securing the device properly too. In any case, Apple can't be blamed here. Apple does not know what really happened. Here is a great example of why Apple takes the position they do: Sim card takeovers. Remember when most of tech thought tying accounts to phone numbers was a good idea? Remember the people saying that was a very bad idea? People can get their digital lives taken, or very seriously impacted just by someone knowing a phone number! The same social engineering and or permissive policy being advocated for in this laptop case gets used all the time to swap a user's sim card! Once that has been done, the attacker can do password swaps and cause all sorts of grief.
- hnlmorg 3y agoThe question isn’t: “what are the numerous ways someone can break someone else’s laptop if they physically have possession of it?” The question is: “how are people apologising for the fact that Apple are refusing to support individuals who are locked out of their own devices?” The question you are answering is an irrelevant hypothetical whereas question being asked is a very legitimate consumer request. It’s like dismissing a mugging by saying “it’s ok because they didn’t stab you”. Both are legitimately wrong but only one of those scenarios is being discussed.
- pests 3y agoThat was my point.
- itake 3y agoUAE is a huge purchaser of 0days and hacking tools. If they were able to add their own icloud account and were "kind" enough to send it back. I wouldn't touch it.