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Is there any hope for the wifi bugs mentioned in the article? I was trying to avoid reviews like this because I didn't want to be thinking about all the proble

Is there any hope for the wifi bugs mentioned in the article? I was trying to avoid reviews like this because I didn't want to be thinking about all the problems instead of looking forward to my new laptop. I am now wondering if I should have gone Intel.

zackify 3y ago
I don’t want to sway people from the WiFi issues. I saw others in the forums without problems. I can definitely say for sure, I ran at least 20 speed tests between it and two phones in the same locations and had much lower bandwidth on it. Hoping this is just an amd issue that will get better.
spatterl1ght 3y ago
i feel like the wifi issues are kind of overblown, i mean 300 down is still blazing fast -- but that is just my usage
- zackify 3y ago
  Yeah exactly. Like it sucks because I have 6E and it can’t really use it, but it’s only a big deal when transferring large files on my network.
  - sva_ 3y ago
    I wonder if this could be due to regulatory domain at all? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wireless#Respecting_the_regulatory_domain https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wirel... 6E didn't work on my Elitebook until I set it from global to my local country. But completely different WiFi chip.
- voltagex_ 3y ago
  I currently get 600 using an Intel AX201 card and 900 from a better router.
  - trustingtrust 3y ago
    The intel stack is more mature right now as someone pointed out in the comments above. Down the road AMD will get better with better drivers and newer chips. If wifi speeds matter to someone and they are upgrading from an older intel board then keeping the old wifi card would make sense as of now.
nrp 3y ago
As the original poster noted, this seems to be an interaction between the specific access point or router and the AMD RZ616 driver, and not something that other users are seeing on their home networks. The RZ616 is AMD's rebrand of MediaTek MT7921K. Mediatek does have a dedicated team working on Linux drivers, but we haven't seen their or AMD's plans: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek All of that said, 13th Gen Intel Core and specifically Intel AX210 WiFi are quite mature in Linux, and Ryzen 7040 U-series and RZ616 are quite new. All indications and communication we've had with AMD point to them having a strong desire to deliver a great Linux experience.
- Kelteseth 3y ago
  So my Framework laptop is currently in transit. In theory, I would just swap the AMD wifi card with an 25 euro Intel AX210?
  - voltagex_ 3y ago
    Try the card first but yes, you can do that.
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    Yep this should be possible AIUI funnily enough, it is not possible on the Intel models.
  - felixg3 3y ago
    You can also replace the MediaTek RZ616 with a Qualcomm FastConnect 6900 card, which is equally supported by AMD and default on their Ryzen Pro models. I’m very happy with mine, got it from eBay.
- voltagex_ 3y ago
  You are probably in a better place than me to really push them on Linux support. Mediatek's Linux support seems reasonable, but I've only had experience running the AP cards in OpenWRT, not the little baby client cards.

zackify 3y ago

I don’t want to sway people from the WiFi issues. I saw others in the forums without problems. I can definitely say for sure, I ran at least 20 speed tests between it and two phones in the same locations and had much lower bandwidth on it. Hoping this is just an amd issue that will get better.

spatterl1ght 3y ago

i feel like the wifi issues are kind of overblown, i mean 300 down is still blazing fast -- but that is just my usage

zackify 3y ago
Yeah exactly. Like it sucks because I have 6E and it can’t really use it, but it’s only a big deal when transferring large files on my network.
- sva_ 3y ago
  I wonder if this could be due to regulatory domain at all? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wireless#Respecting_the_regulatory_domain https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_configuration/Wirel... 6E didn't work on my Elitebook until I set it from global to my local country. But completely different WiFi chip.
voltagex_ 3y ago
I currently get 600 using an Intel AX201 card and 900 from a better router.
- trustingtrust 3y ago
  The intel stack is more mature right now as someone pointed out in the comments above. Down the road AMD will get better with better drivers and newer chips. If wifi speeds matter to someone and they are upgrading from an older intel board then keeping the old wifi card would make sense as of now.

nrp 3y ago

As the original poster noted, this seems to be an interaction between the specific access point or router and the AMD RZ616 driver, and not something that other users are seeing on their home networks. The RZ616 is AMD's rebrand of MediaTek MT7921K. Mediatek does have a dedicated team working on Linux drivers, but we haven't seen their or AMD's plans: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/mediatek All of that said, 13th Gen Intel Core and specifically Intel AX210 WiFi are quite mature in Linux, and Ryzen 7040 U-series and RZ616 are quite new. All indications and communication we've had with AMD point to them having a strong desire to deliver a great Linux experience.

Kelteseth 3y ago
So my Framework laptop is currently in transit. In theory, I would just swap the AMD wifi card with an 25 euro Intel AX210?
- voltagex_ 3y ago
  Try the card first but yes, you can do that.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  Yep this should be possible AIUI funnily enough, it is not possible on the Intel models.
- felixg3 3y ago
  You can also replace the MediaTek RZ616 with a Qualcomm FastConnect 6900 card, which is equally supported by AMD and default on their Ryzen Pro models. I’m very happy with mine, got it from eBay.
voltagex_ 3y ago
You are probably in a better place than me to really push them on Linux support. Mediatek's Linux support seems reasonable, but I've only had experience running the AP cards in OpenWRT, not the little baby client cards.