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And yet every time I post running Linux on a modern laptop as a daily driver is not a good idea I get heavily downvoted.

by chx 3y ago

semiquaver 3y ago
Complaining about downvotes is a downvotable offense :) (FWIW I agree with you, Linux on laptops is a recipe for pain)
- bobthecowboy 3y ago
  I've been running my 12th Gen Intel Framework for just over a year (since I got it) with Linux (KDE Neon). Bluetooth, expansion cards, thunderbolt, wifi - literally no issues. I haven't even had to fiddle with it. I use it all day for work (software engineering - lots of VM's and browser tabs) and all evening for Minecraft and movies. When I'm at my desk at home it's plugged in to a Thunderbolt 4 dock driving two monitors and getting Gigabit network speed. Before that I had a brand new Dell XPS 13, which again I had for a little over a year, running KDE Neon. It wasn't used for work as much, but again it worked perfectly fine, including the touch screen I didn't even want on it (okay- a major issue was the battery life, which was atrocious). Neither of these even came with Linux installed.
sofixa 3y ago
Disagree, depending on what you mean by modern. A model that just came out that includes freshly released hardware? Unless it's a Dell Developer Edition or similar that comes with a Linux distro preinstalled and is thus tested, yeah, there might be driver issues. Otherwise stuff just mostly works. Some due diligence ahead is a good idea to ensure there's no problematic hardware though.
vladvasiliu 3y ago
Probably because it depends on the modern laptop. I bought my current daily driver when mobile Zen 3 parts were still new. Arch supported it 100% without any random tweaks since day one. As a comparison, Windows only figured out how to work the webcam about a year later...
prmoustache 3y ago
There are brands selling preinstalled laptop, this is the way to go if you want to be 100% sure of a supported laptop. There is a curated list at this page: https://linuxpreloaded.com/ https://linuxpreloaded.com/
nijave 3y ago
If you spend a lot of your time working in/with Linux, I think it's fine. If you don't, you soon will.
- chx 3y ago
  All the time: I use WSL. The right tool for the right job. Linux userspace for development -- but Windows for the kernel because that's where the drivers are.

And yet every time I post running Linux on a modern laptop as a daily driver is not a good idea I get heavily downvoted.

by chx 3y ago

And yet every time I post running Linux on a modern laptop as a daily driver is not a good idea I get heavily downvoted.

semiquaver 3y ago

Complaining about downvotes is a downvotable offense :) (FWIW I agree with you, Linux on laptops is a recipe for pain)

bobthecowboy 3y ago
I've been running my 12th Gen Intel Framework for just over a year (since I got it) with Linux (KDE Neon). Bluetooth, expansion cards, thunderbolt, wifi - literally no issues. I haven't even had to fiddle with it. I use it all day for work (software engineering - lots of VM's and browser tabs) and all evening for Minecraft and movies. When I'm at my desk at home it's plugged in to a Thunderbolt 4 dock driving two monitors and getting Gigabit network speed. Before that I had a brand new Dell XPS 13, which again I had for a little over a year, running KDE Neon. It wasn't used for work as much, but again it worked perfectly fine, including the touch screen I didn't even want on it (okay- a major issue was the battery life, which was atrocious). Neither of these even came with Linux installed.

sofixa 3y ago

Disagree, depending on what you mean by modern. A model that just came out that includes freshly released hardware? Unless it's a Dell Developer Edition or similar that comes with a Linux distro preinstalled and is thus tested, yeah, there might be driver issues. Otherwise stuff just mostly works. Some due diligence ahead is a good idea to ensure there's no problematic hardware though.

vladvasiliu 3y ago

Probably because it depends on the modern laptop. I bought my current daily driver when mobile Zen 3 parts were still new. Arch supported it 100% without any random tweaks since day one. As a comparison, Windows only figured out how to work the webcam about a year later...

prmoustache 3y ago

There are brands selling preinstalled laptop, this is the way to go if you want to be 100% sure of a supported laptop. There is a curated list at this page: https://linuxpreloaded.com/ https://linuxpreloaded.com/

nijave 3y ago

If you spend a lot of your time working in/with Linux, I think it's fine. If you don't, you soon will.

chx 3y ago
All the time: I use WSL. The right tool for the right job. Linux userspace for development -- but Windows for the kernel because that's where the drivers are.