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I was going to add to the complaints but realized I always scroll with touchpad or drag up/down on my phone. Maybe scroll bars are kind of obsolete except for v

by rr808 3y ago

I was going to add to the complaints but realized I always scroll with touchpad or drag up/down on my phone. Maybe scroll bars are kind of obsolete except for visual clues.

phkahler 3y ago
>> Maybe scroll bars are kind of obsolete except for visual clues. On mobile maybe. On desktop absolutely not. And in that case it's detrimental for them to be small.
- rr808 3y ago
  For my desktop I usually use the wheel.
  - bandrami 3y ago
    The wheel doesn't tell you where you are in the page, which is why scrollbars are good (I don't know that I've ever used them to change position, personally; that's not what they're "for" in my brain). It's like how Safari has this weird insistence on hiding URLs. Every other browser tooltips or status bars a link you hover over, but no: we're apparently just supposed to click blind. For that matter the address bar doesn't even show you the full URL you're at right now unless you enter edit mode.
  - acuozzo 3y ago
    How do you scroll to the middle or end of an incredibly-long document? e.g., 200+ pages, if printed.
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    - rr808 3y ago
      Actually I have a Logitech mx so can spin the wheel and it keeps going round for 10s+.
- TonyTrapp 3y ago
  I'm not a heavy mobile user and every time I do need to scroll a long page on mobile, I absolutely hate the experience. I cannot easily jump to a specific point the document. I have to scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll until I reach the paragraph I wanted to read.
Jenda_ 3y ago
I also rarely click the scrollbar (except when "jumping to approximate absolute position" in a long document), however, I always look at it to get the current position/document length. Therefore, my usual problem is terrible contrast of scrollbars. I have modified GTK and Qt themes to show dark blue slider on a light gray background, but only about half of the apps respect it.

by rr808 3y ago

I was going to add to the complaints but realized I always scroll with touchpad or drag up/down on my phone. Maybe scroll bars are kind of obsolete except for visual clues.

phkahler 3y ago

>> Maybe scroll bars are kind of obsolete except for visual clues. On mobile maybe. On desktop absolutely not. And in that case it's detrimental for them to be small.

rr808 3y ago
For my desktop I usually use the wheel.
- bandrami 3y ago
  The wheel doesn't tell you where you are in the page, which is why scrollbars are good (I don't know that I've ever used them to change position, personally; that's not what they're "for" in my brain). It's like how Safari has this weird insistence on hiding URLs. Every other browser tooltips or status bars a link you hover over, but no: we're apparently just supposed to click blind. For that matter the address bar doesn't even show you the full URL you're at right now unless you enter edit mode.
- acuozzo 3y ago
  How do you scroll to the middle or end of an incredibly-long document? e.g., 200+ pages, if printed.
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  - rr808 3y ago
    Actually I have a Logitech mx so can spin the wheel and it keeps going round for 10s+.
TonyTrapp 3y ago
I'm not a heavy mobile user and every time I do need to scroll a long page on mobile, I absolutely hate the experience. I cannot easily jump to a specific point the document. I have to scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll until I reach the paragraph I wanted to read.

Jenda_ 3y ago

I also rarely click the scrollbar (except when "jumping to approximate absolute position" in a long document), however, I always look at it to get the current position/document length. Therefore, my usual problem is terrible contrast of scrollbars. I have modified GTK and Qt themes to show dark blue slider on a light gray background, but only about half of the apps respect it.