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This all sounds exactly like what I imagined owning a Framework running Linux would be like. I’m sure y’all are having a ball editing all of your configs and d

This all sounds exactly like what I imagined owning a Framework running Linux would be like. I’m sure y’all are having a ball editing all of your configs and doing firmware updates in Windows, but I’ll stick to my non-repairable MacBook and keep Linux on my servers.

NewJazz 3y ago
Running Linux on any bleeding edge device is like this. People find issues, fix issues, and then at some point, if the hardware is popular enough, it becomes plug and play.
starkparker 3y ago
The Intel Frameworks on Linux have been plug and play for about six months, especially on Fedora 38. Any laptop, and most hardware, is like this. The mess here has been pretty AMD-specific.
ncallaway 3y ago
I’ve been running linux (Fedora) on my intel Framework laptop for a little over a year. I’ve had no issues.
- noirbot 3y ago
  Yea, I've had no issues with the Linux of it really, the hardware is just... bad. It feels cheap, the battery is terrible, having it near any magnet messes up its sensors for if the lid is closed and causes random issues, and the screen is so glossy you essentially can't use it in natural lighting. I guess I could potentially spend the cost of a third Macbook Air on replacing parts to maybe fix all of that and generate as much carbon and e-waste in the process as the sum total of the last decade of my Apple laptops, but that seems like a pyrrhic victory.
- Rebelgecko 3y ago
  Which Intel Gen? On my 12th gen the brightness keys didn't even work out of the box on Fedora (IIRC they've been working on the fix since 2022). There's also random freezes that you can only fix by tweaking some SSD boot param (but only some SSDs are impacted)
  - ncallaway 3y ago
    11th gen, I think? I did have a period of random freezes, but mine was RAM related (I had bought some RAM from Newegg, which I think was bad; I returned it and haven’t had any problems since I swapped it out).
nullwarp 3y ago
You people are insufferable. Why even post this garbage?
antonvs 3y ago
You’re a PHP developer, I’m sure this stuff must seem very difficult to you.

NewJazz 3y ago

Running Linux on any bleeding edge device is like this. People find issues, fix issues, and then at some point, if the hardware is popular enough, it becomes plug and play.

starkparker 3y ago

The Intel Frameworks on Linux have been plug and play for about six months, especially on Fedora 38. Any laptop, and most hardware, is like this. The mess here has been pretty AMD-specific.

ncallaway 3y ago

I’ve been running linux (Fedora) on my intel Framework laptop for a little over a year. I’ve had no issues.

noirbot 3y ago
Yea, I've had no issues with the Linux of it really, the hardware is just... bad. It feels cheap, the battery is terrible, having it near any magnet messes up its sensors for if the lid is closed and causes random issues, and the screen is so glossy you essentially can't use it in natural lighting. I guess I could potentially spend the cost of a third Macbook Air on replacing parts to maybe fix all of that and generate as much carbon and e-waste in the process as the sum total of the last decade of my Apple laptops, but that seems like a pyrrhic victory.
Rebelgecko 3y ago
Which Intel Gen? On my 12th gen the brightness keys didn't even work out of the box on Fedora (IIRC they've been working on the fix since 2022). There's also random freezes that you can only fix by tweaking some SSD boot param (but only some SSDs are impacted)
- ncallaway 3y ago
  11th gen, I think? I did have a period of random freezes, but mine was RAM related (I had bought some RAM from Newegg, which I think was bad; I returned it and haven’t had any problems since I swapped it out).

nullwarp 3y ago

You people are insufferable. Why even post this garbage?

antonvs 3y ago

You’re a PHP developer, I’m sure this stuff must seem very difficult to you.